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Throughout the year, the water temperature in Avila Beach does not rise above 68°F and therefore is not suitable for comfortable swimming.

^^^From the interweb.

right. if I want a hottub I’ll go to the Ramada Inn.

Hot tub? Lol.

Personally, I find the 75 degree Bethany water chilly. I prefer to swim in the Caribbean. Nothing beats the warm turquoise water in Antigua or some such. You haven’t experienced a superb beach until you’ve spent days on empty beaches in the Caribbean. My kids and I have been spoiled.

right, you limit your “outdoorsiness” to your two weeks of expensive and exclusive vacationing in the Caribbean. This is what passes for East Coast beach vacations, lol. that should give OP insight.

You’re making an assumption.

I’m wondering if you live in Dcumlandia? Everyone is a runner. Everyone belongs to a gym and has a home gym. Everyone’s kids play travel sports.

There are cyclists who are so committed to their sport that they’ve damaged their fertility.

Golf widows are a real thing. Are you not among the country club set?

Women who play tennis at the club are cutthroat.

Horseback riding is very popular in the affluent burbs.

Urban hiking is a thing.

Don’t you know any people who have cycled through quaint villages in Europe?

Don’t you know any marathoners? They’re everywhere.

Owning a boat and jet skis is typical for those who own beach houses and lake houses.

But I digress. Yes, we love going to the Caribbean as well as local beaches.

Re: the bizarre debate over trees - American forests are lovely, but they don’t hold a candle to European forests or the lush rolling green sheep-dotted hills of the English countryside with quaint stone villages.

What a bizarre take. No euro forest is as grand as PacNW/CA forests.

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Anonymous wrote:
Throughout the year, the water temperature in Avila Beach does not rise above 68°F and therefore is not suitable for comfortable swimming.

^^^From the interweb.

right. if I want a hottub I’ll go to the Ramada Inn.

Hot tub? Lol.

Personally, I find the 75 degree Bethany water chilly. I prefer to swim in the Caribbean. Nothing beats the warm turquoise water in Antigua or some such. You haven’t experienced a superb beach until you’ve spent days on empty beaches in the Caribbean. My kids and I have been spoiled.

right, you limit your “outdoorsiness” to your two weeks of expensive and exclusive vacationing in the Caribbean. This is what passes for East Coast beach vacations, lol. that should give OP insight.

You’re making an assumption.

I’m wondering if you live in Dcumlandia? Everyone is a runner. Everyone belongs to a gym and has a home gym. Everyone’s kids play travel sports.

There are cyclists who are so committed to their sport that they’ve damaged their fertility.

Golf widows are a real thing. Are you not among the country club set?

Women who play tennis at the club are cutthroat.

Horseback riding is very popular in the affluent burbs.

Urban hiking is a thing.

Don’t you know any people who have cycled through quaint villages in Europe?

Don’t you know any marathoners? They’re everywhere.

Owning a boat and jet skis is typical for those who own beach houses and lake houses.

But I digress. Yes, we love going to the Caribbean as well as local beaches.

Re: the bizarre debate over trees - American forests are lovely, but they don’t hold a candle to European forests or the lush rolling green sheep-dotted hills of the English countryside with quaint stone villages.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

There are majestic redwoods in designated state parks that are usually highly protected and you have to drive for hours to be able to reach. I spent a lot of time out west so i know exactly how it is. I'll definitely take an easy drive to a STUNNING tree lined, green glen any day, over driving for hours to see ONE view

ok throw down - where are all these “stunning” forests 20 minuted from
metro DC?

Great Falls, and the historic home of Frederick Douglass, and Monticello, and the views you see kayaking along the Potomac, and Chesapeake views in Maryland, and drive a few hours to hike Old Rag, Luray, Skyline Drive...

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

There are majestic redwoods in designated state parks that are usually highly protected and you have to drive for hours to be able to reach. I spent a lot of time out west so i know exactly how it is. I'll definitely take an easy drive to a STUNNING tree lined, green glen any day, over driving for hours to see ONE view

ok throw down - where are all these “stunning” forests 20 minuted from
metro DC?

Great Falls, and the historic home of Frederick Douglass, and Monticello, and the views you see kayaking along the Potomac, and Chesapeake views in Maryland, and drive a few hours to hike Old Rag, Luray, Skyline Drive...

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Anonymous wrote:
Throughout the year, the water temperature in Avila Beach does not rise above 68°F and therefore is not suitable for comfortable swimming.

^^^From the interweb.

right. if I want a hottub I’ll go to the Ramada Inn.

Hot tub? Lol.

Personally, I find the 75 degree Bethany water chilly. I prefer to swim in the Caribbean. Nothing beats the warm turquoise water in Antigua or some such. You haven’t experienced a superb beach until you’ve spent days on empty beaches in the Caribbean. My kids and I have been spoiled.

right, you limit your “outdoorsiness” to your two weeks of expensive and exclusive vacationing in the Caribbean. This is what passes for East Coast beach vacations, lol. that should give OP insight.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

There are majestic redwoods in designated state parks that are usually highly protected and you have to drive for hours to be able to reach. I spent a lot of time out west so i know exactly how it is. I'll definitely take an easy drive to a STUNNING tree lined, green glen any day, over driving for hours to see ONE view

ok throw down - where are all these “stunning” forests 20 minuted from
metro DC?

Great Falls, and the historic home of Frederick Douglass, and Monticello, and the views you see kayaking along the Potomac, and Chesapeake views in Maryland, and drive a few hours to hike Old Rag, Luray, Skyline Drive...

The “Great Falls” are some boring rapids.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, Oregon beaches sound unsatisfying, based on what you’re saying, OP. Fine for adventurers. Fine for kids picking shells. But, not so enjoyable for everyone else.

East coast beaches and west coast beach (in Southern Calif, at least) are similar in that people bring towels and umbrellas and lunch coolers and hang for the day. Both are gorgeous. I live in CA, but I’m from DC and grew up going to Bettheny/Rehoboth, NC, Florida and Long Island beaches and I love them all. I love the salty scent. I love the long beach grasses. And the sanded wooden walkways. I love the warm water. On the West Coast (CA), I love the sharp blue skies and stunning coast line and fun beach activities of volleyball or “bay watch” lifeguards and people watching. It’s all very relaxed and makes a good day.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

There are majestic redwoods in designated state parks that are usually highly protected and you have to drive for hours to be able to reach. I spent a lot of time out west so i know exactly how it is. I'll definitely take an easy drive to a STUNNING tree lined, green glen any day, over driving for hours to see ONE view

ok throw down - where are all these “stunning” forests 20 minuted from
metro DC?

Great Falls, and the historic home of Frederick Douglass, and Monticello, and the views you see kayaking along the Potomac, and Chesapeake views in Maryland, and drive a few hours to hike Old Rag, Luray, Skyline Drive...

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

NP. I recently went on a hike in Hocking Hills in Ohio. It was gorgeous, with waterfalls and caves. I'm so glad that I'm one of the find-beauty-everywhere people who loves the vast variety of natural beauty in our country, instead of a regional snob.

Tell me this isn't beauty:
https://wanderthemap.com/2017/09/waterfalls-and-hiking-at-hocking-hills-state-park/

I'm proud to have been to all 50 states, and experienced beauty, good food, fun times, interesting culture, and nice people in every one.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

There are majestic redwoods in designated state parks that are usually highly protected and you have to drive for hours to be able to reach. I spent a lot of time out west so i know exactly how it is. I'll definitely take an easy drive to a STUNNING tree lined, green glen any day, over driving for hours to see ONE view

ok throw down - where are all these “stunning” forests 20 minuted from
metro DC?

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be something really missing in someone who needs something as simple as the beauty of a summer day, or the warm breeze of the ocean, or the sound of waves lapping against the shore as you nap on a towel, explained to them. What did Aniston say about Brad Pitt? "A sensitivity chip missing"?

a nap while surrounded by a thousand other nappers and screaming children, in the shadow of fugly condos and tatty decaying dunes, hold very little charm fo anyone who has experienced the majesty of west coast beaches.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.

I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
Throughout the year, the water temperature in Avila Beach does not rise above 68°F and therefore is not suitable for comfortable swimming.

^^^From the interweb.

right. if I want a hottub I’ll go to the Ramada Inn.

Hot tub? Lol.

Personally, I find the 75 degree Bethany water chilly. I prefer to swim in the Caribbean. Nothing beats the warm turquoise water in Antigua or some such. You haven’t experienced a superb beach until you’ve spent days on empty beaches in the Caribbean. My kids and I have been spoiled.

right, you limit your “outdoorsiness” to your two weeks of expensive and exclusive vacationing in the Caribbean. This is what passes for East Coast beach vacations, lol. that should give OP insight.