Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 17:03     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Leper's island for the lot!
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 16:49     Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?

I haven’t read most of this thread, so I’m unsure if this has been discussed. But a key consequence will come from employers requiring vaccination.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/want-that-job-offer-a-covid-19-vaccine-is-now-required-11619438580
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 16:27     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You like false dichotomies, don't you?

(Why can't we advocate for both?)


You could!
(But we know you won't.)


But I wasn't the one who falsely posited an either-or situation.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 16:22     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:You like false dichotomies, don't you?

(Why can't we advocate for both?)


You could!
(But we know you won't.)
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:50     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:There was a parent in AZ who, when she told her child she could take off her mask, and helped her do so, the child broke down crying shouting “The air is poisoned!! I”m going to die!!”.

Very sad state


I know a 7 year old child who squatted on the floor and peed while staring her mother in the eyes, after the mother shut off the movie she wanted to watch. Of course, this was in 2016, but this obviously proves something, right? Or maybe it was a child already predisposed to mental health or behavioral issues.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:48     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You like false dichotomies, don't you?

(Why can't we advocate for both?)


YOU can. I’m taking about what government is DOING. Threatening people in this country to comply while simultaneously allowing infected people to cross into our country.


How is the government "threatening people in this country to comply?" -- where are the government-enforced coercions? Who has been held down by Fauci to get a needle in the arm?
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:44     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
There was a parent in AZ who, when she told her child she could take off her mask, and helped her do so, the child broke down crying shouting “The air is poisoned!! I”m going to die!!”.

Very sad state
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:41     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:You like false dichotomies, don't you?

(Why can't we advocate for both?)


YOU can. I’m taking about what government is DOING. Threatening people in this country to comply while simultaneously allowing infected people to cross into our country.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:40     Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm 50+ and received all the usual vaccinations required to go to public school, and DS 30+ had all the same plus new ones required for school and recorded in a little yellow booklet (wonder where that is now??). DH received all kinds of extra vaccinations while in the military. Most Americans are like us and have received vaccines recommended and required by government. Why is there such resistance to the COVID vaccine? Is it because of the emergency use authorization?


The internet has made people really paranoid.


Totally new technology that we are all the mass test for. I guarantee you people won’t be nearly as resistant when the more traditional vaccines appear. They are just as good, just take longer to make
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:37     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of the unvaccinated will eventually get Covid, maybe multiple times as new variants emerge and spread. Some will survive and some will die. All will get infected.

We can flip that around. All of the vaccinated when encountering the seasonal Covid virus in the fall will die because of cytokine storms.

See how mean-spirited and twisted that sounds? Some truly sick people on this board even if they are vaccinated they are not immune from criticism of their (vile) attempts at persuasion.


Is there anyone vaccinated who died of cytokine storm? Stronger side effects, yes, but not a cytokine storm. The mechanism isn't really there for it, from a medical perspective.

It sounds more like an anti-vax fantasy, to be honest. Stick it to 'em, and all that.



I really don't think it's being mean spirited. Just a sad reality. If you remain unvaccinated, you will get infected. You can't dodge it forever unless you truly live in a plastic bubble.


We've been home a year and will be home until there is a vaccine for kids. If you take the vaccine you can still get infected. How Biden and our leaders are running this is shameful. How people are behaving is shameful. Everyone needs to do their part through behavior and vaccines to help stop the spread. But, this vaccine is new and doesn't have full approval so its reasonable to be concerned.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:35     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of the unvaccinated will eventually get Covid, maybe multiple times as new variants emerge and spread. Some will survive and some will die. All will get infected.

We can flip that around. All of the vaccinated when encountering the seasonal Covid virus in the fall will die because of cytokine storms.

See how mean-spirited and twisted that sounds? Some truly sick people on this board even if they are vaccinated they are not immune from criticism of their (vile) attempts at persuasion.


Is there anyone vaccinated who died of cytokine storm? Stronger side effects, yes, but not a cytokine storm. The mechanism isn't really there for it, from a medical perspective.

It sounds more like an anti-vax fantasy, to be honest. Stick it to 'em, and all that.



I really don't think it's being mean spirited. Just a sad reality. If you remain unvaccinated, you will get infected. You can't dodge it forever unless you truly live in a plastic bubble.


This. Eventually it will become evident that the only folks getting hospitalized and dying will be the unvaccinated.

That is the ultimate limiting event.


What if they had it and survived prior to the vaccinations becoming available? Past infection is noticeably absent. And I think what PP is referring to is the ferret studies. Not ONE vaccinated ferret survived when they later encountered the virus in the wild.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:35     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
The vaccine bullies are out in full force.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:34     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
You like false dichotomies, don't you?

(Why can't we advocate for both?)
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 13:54     Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If colleges are going to be able to discriminate against people for their medical history, then that is opening a whole big can of worms (and a lot of lawsuits).


Yes it’s not like there’s any legal precedent for requiring vaccinations in schools. Wait...

Idiot.


+1

I went to college decades ago, and I had to show proof of immunizations. This is well-established. Schools, camps, and employers will be able to require it for attendance, just like they can require tetanus or meningitis or MMR. And other countries may require it for entrance to their country, just like some countries now require that you be vaccinated for yellow fever or Hep A.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 13:50     Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:I'm 50+ and received all the usual vaccinations required to go to public school, and DS 30+ had all the same plus new ones required for school and recorded in a little yellow booklet (wonder where that is now??). DH received all kinds of extra vaccinations while in the military. Most Americans are like us and have received vaccines recommended and required by government. Why is there such resistance to the COVID vaccine? Is it because of the emergency use authorization?


Because many people are idiots.