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Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

I think that’s really stupid of you. A lot of posters here are being ridiculous. It’s one of the top school districts in the state. We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Now we have a vaccine, they’ve opened for hybrid, and in the fall, everything will be back to normal. This whole thread is so stupid.

If you seriously think APS is one of the "top school districts in the state" - you are pretty dumb yourself. Kids all around us are receiving a decent, actual education and our kids are not. What's been happening at APS for the past year is so far below what would be considered a top school district, it's insane. And this is not the middle of a pandemic anymore. Are you still wiping down groceries with clorox, lady??

Hmm. I guess all of these other people are dumb. We’re on the tail end of a pandemic- hybrid. When it’s over in the fall, we’ll be fully open. Time to get over that, and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

I think that’s really stupid of you. A lot of posters here are being ridiculous. It’s one of the top school districts in the state. We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Now we have a vaccine, they’ve opened for hybrid, and in the fall, everything will be back to normal. This whole thread is so stupid.

If you seriously think APS is one of the "top school districts in the state" - you are pretty dumb yourself. Kids all around us are receiving a decent, actual education and our kids are not. What's been happening at APS for the past year is so far below what would be considered a top school district, it's insane. And this is not the middle of a pandemic anymore. Are you still wiping down groceries with clorox, lady??

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Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

I think that’s really stupid of you. A lot of posters here are being ridiculous. It’s one of the top school districts in the state. We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Now we have a vaccine, they’ve opened for hybrid, and in the fall, everything will be back to normal. This whole thread is so stupid.

Curious when we move out of the "middle of a pandemic" mentality. That is a key phrase that is routinely tossed out as though it justifies all things. But, we're not in the middle by my account anymore. We have vaccines. Variants are emerging, but, we're certainly light years from where we were last March. The problem is that we have barely moved the needle from last March, while a significant portion of the rest of America and the world have prioritized education and moved on from obsessing over the minutia like we are here.

Other parts of the country are not hyperventilating over classroom capacity and 3 ft vs. 6 ft, indoor lunch, etc etc etc. I'm not saying that we should have a free for all, but, my gosh, it has been over a year now. Anyone who thinks our kids are not falling behind is kidding themselves and living in denial so that they don't have to face reality.

"It's been a year now" is such bull. We were in a much different place - and with zero data or analysis - one year ago.

We still are in the middle of the pandemic - it's hopefully the last bit but community transmission still "substantial".

Like PP said, we will be back to normal by fall. These posts are ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

I think that’s really stupid of you. A lot of posters here are being ridiculous. It’s one of the top school districts in the state. We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Now we have a vaccine, they’ve opened for hybrid, and in the fall, everything will be back to normal. This whole thread is so stupid.

Curious when we move out of the "middle of a pandemic" mentality. That is a key phrase that is routinely tossed out as though it justifies all things. But, we're not in the middle by my account anymore. We have vaccines. Variants are emerging, but, we're certainly light years from where we were last March. The problem is that we have barely moved the needle from last March, while a significant portion of the rest of America and the world have prioritized education and moved on from obsessing over the minutia like we are here.

Other parts of the country are not hyperventilating over classroom capacity and 3 ft vs. 6 ft, indoor lunch, etc etc etc. I'm not saying that we should have a free for all, but, my gosh, it has been over a year now. Anyone who thinks our kids are not falling behind is kidding themselves and living in denial so that they don't have to face reality.

Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

Hire a governess already, then.

Anonymous wrote:As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

I think that’s really stupid of you. A lot of posters here are being ridiculous. It’s one of the top school districts in the state. We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Now we have a vaccine, they’ve opened for hybrid, and in the fall, everything will be back to normal. This whole thread is so stupid.

As I read these posts, I get seriously depressed with how awful APS is for our kids. How are people so clearly unqualified in charge of our kids' education? How much longer are we going to put up with this? What else can we do?

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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.

I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.

Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.

He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.

He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.

Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.

He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.

Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.

Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.

This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.

Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.

FCPS is saying the same thing regarding 5 days in person in the fall. Yet the superintendent admitted in a work session last week that he has applied for a waiver of the minimum required hours next year.

Why would the state grant the waiver? SB 1303 was pretty much written for NOVA.

I don’t know that they will (I sure hope not). It does make me nervous though that he felt the need to put in the request ....

I think they are planning on 5 days in person but want the waiver in case things surge and we need temporary shutdowns.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.

I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.

Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.

He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.

He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.

Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.

He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.

Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.

Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.

This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.

Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.

FCPS is saying the same thing regarding 5 days in person in the fall. Yet the superintendent admitted in a work session last week that he has applied for a waiver of the minimum required hours next year.

Why would the state grant the waiver? SB 1303 was pretty much written for NOVA.

I don’t know that they will (I sure hope not). It does make me nervous though that he felt the need to put in the request ....

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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.

I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.

Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.

He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.

He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.

Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.

He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.

Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.

Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.

This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.

Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.

FCPS is saying the same thing regarding 5 days in person in the fall. Yet the superintendent admitted in a work session last week that he has applied for a waiver of the minimum required hours next year.

Why would the state grant the waiver? SB 1303 was pretty much written for NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.

I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.

Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.

He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.

He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.

Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.

He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.

Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.

Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.

This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.

Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.

FCPS is saying the same thing regarding 5 days in person in the fall. Yet the superintendent admitted in a work session last week that he has applied for a waiver of the minimum required hours next year.

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Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".

I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.

Yet I bet APS hasn't asked them why.
No vax yet? Move more to the community centers.
Managing child care 2 days a week too hard? Give them a 4 day option.
No extended day? Open targeted extended day centers. Or roll them out in greatest need areas (and no, all of us in white collar jobs working from home paying a nanny, AP or other, do not have the highest need).
Transportation not working? FIX IT!
This is a 600M business and I bet these parents are keeping their kids home for a very practical reason and would likely want their kids in full time school ASAP (at least for ES; my kids are young).

How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
Where do we open these extended day centers?
How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses?

How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
Fed gov needs to move the vax from Miss which doesn't want them, to where they are desired.

How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
We are using them for everything we can to keep them employed. This is not a problem.

Where do we open these extended day centers? In the schools.

How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses. That's been an s-show and not covid-related. When attracting staff is hard, salary is not high enough. If finding trained people is hard, pay them to get trained.

Not covid-related: get rid of option schools and make all schools as walkable as possible. That's a way to fix transportation generally and again, this was a huge prob before covid.

How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
Fed gov needs to move the vax from Miss which doesn't want them, to where they are desired.-[b]Not in APS control

How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
We are using them for everything we can to keep them employed. This is not a problem.-That's not true now that students are back in. They are handling drop off, monitoring lunch/recess/specials/bathrooms.

Where do we open these extended day centers? In the schools.- If we want them to work extended day again we'll need to pay for more hours

How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses. That's been an s-show and not covid-related. When attracting staff is hard, salary is not high enough. If finding trained people is hard, pay them to get trained.- There is a nationwide school bus driver shortage, more money would help but where do we get it?

Not covid-related: get rid of option schools and make all schools as walkable as possible. That's a way to fix transportation generally and again, this was a huge prob before covid.- Not an option for this year but I agree in general

Who actually believes the kids will be back 5 days, in-person, with a teacher, in the fall??
-NOT ME

I seriously hope there is a recall - I'll sign

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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.

I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.

Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.

He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.

He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.

Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.

He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.

Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.

Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.

This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.

Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.

We just got into private so I’m totally calm. Report back in September when you’re actually I in a classroom 5 days a week.

Have fun over on the private school board. Byeeeee.

My kids will be educated. Enjoy your “robust” virtual education.