Anonymous
04/01/2021 13:42
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
Its not "unfair" to give higher performing people -or schools more autonomy. Its good leadership.
It's not just more autonomy. It's sometimes straight up more money. Better principals. More care and attention from downtown staff. Lots of things.
Recall that several years ago, the longtime principal at Janney moved to become principal of a Brookland MS. Somehow her experience at Janney did not translate to bringing that kind of success to this MS- I am only a casual observer, so others may have more facts. I suspect the high SES community is a big difference. And then that principal left the MS to become principal of Brent- similar profile to Janney.
jsteele
04/01/2021 13:41
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:We are not talking moving kids from Crestwood to Anacostia - we are talking about moving them to schools closer to their own neighborhoods.
The math actually isn't that hard and is getting easier by the year.
Just so you know, Roosevelt is the assigned high school for Crestwood and MacFarland is its assigned middle school. Crestwood kids are still grandfathered into Deal for two more years and going to Deal provides a path to Wilson. Already several neighborhood kids attend the assigned elementary schools (Powell and West). So, while this ship may not have sailed, it is in the process of leaving the shore.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 13:31
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
yes, I would absolutely do it.
The interesting question is what we should do about the high schools EOTP.
People roll their eyes but there are interesting ideas. For example, Coolidge is perpetually underenrolled and its catchment has a very household income. Basically, if there was no Coolidge, no one would build a high school where it is. Why not make it a big draw? Early college is one program there - why not make that the core focus?
For all the greatness of Wilson, supposedly, it has a mix of good and bad students. Make Coolidge a draw for good students and it will change the game.
The interesting question is what we should do about the high schools EOTP.
People roll their eyes but there are interesting ideas. For example, Coolidge is perpetually underenrolled and its catchment has a very household income. Basically, if there was no Coolidge, no one would build a high school where it is. Why not make it a big draw? Early college is one program there - why not make that the core focus?
For all the greatness of Wilson, supposedly, it has a mix of good and bad students. Make Coolidge a draw for good students and it will change the game.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 13:27
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
So you are saying central office is racist. They very well might be although I have a good friend who works there and she says that the overall sentiment at Central is very much anti-Wilson. It is talked about disparagingly as the so-called white annoying school. In general Central likes compliant parent communities who don’t question their decisions
Anonymous
04/01/2021 13:21
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have to recommend again this article:
https://ggwash.org/view/71802/can-dcps-survive-the-coming-enrollment-surge
Money quote:
For most of the past 50 years, DC Public Schools (DCPS) has had way too many schools, and the most pressing facilities issue for the agency has been how to close and dispose of unneeded buildings in an orderly manner. Even though DC has gained over 22,000 public school students since 2008, and between 2008 and 2013 DCPS shrunk from 134 to 110 schools, the number of seats still exceeds the number of students by about 25%.
Today, DCPS has a capacity of 61,925 seats and only 48,043 students, according to the Master Facilities Plan. However, if the projections hold, by 2027 – which is only eight years away – DCPS will have 61,697 students. For the first time in 60 years—two generations—DCPS is going to be full. And it's likely going to grow from there.
Ward 3 is seeing what the rest of the city is going to be seeing very soon.
I don't know why you believe this - there is a massive amount of spare MS and HS capacity EOTP and you don't have to go to Anacostia to find it. Just at Coolidge, Cardozo and Roosevelt alone you can accommodate 1500+ kids no problem. I get that gentrifiers don't want their kids to attend those schools but people in Ward 3 shouldn't have to deal with unsafe conditions at Deal and Wilson to accommodate them either.
1) Make kids go IB for high school no matter what. It will fix deal if people know they aren't getting feeder rights.
2) Make an income maximum for the School lottery of 75k per year per family. Then no more white families buying cheap EOTP homes and expecting Ward 3 schools but poor families still have a shot for good starts .
You also need to find someway to cut UMC families out of charters or alternately allow charters to evolve over time to being more neighborhood oriented. Charters were a solution to 1995's problems - I doubt 25 years ago anyone would have anticipated so many UMC white families flooding the charters and taking slots they anticipated would be going to working class POC from poor neighborhoods. Gentrifying neighborhoods should be seeing dramatic improvements in their in-bound schools but aren't because gentrifiers aren't enrolling their kids and that in fact is causing things to worsen at these schools instead of improve as their enrollment sags.
You want to live in Petworth? Great - part and parcel of the deal should be you send your kids to their neighborhood school along with your neighbors kids who have lived in the neighborhood for generations rather than holding up your nose and using your superior resources to enroll your kids elsewhere.
LMAO. I live in Petworth and the first thing my long-time neighbours told me was that no one on the block sends their kids IB and they could help us find a school.
+1000. I tried so hard at our IB. For years. And my neighbors all rolled their eyes and went to Catholic and Friendship schools. After four years of beating my head on the brick wall of dysfunction and incompetence that is DCPS, I saw the light.
Yet your neighborhood still has under enrolled public schools that some people in the neighborhood are sending their kids too.
I get that there is some chicken and egg stuff here but someone needs to go first and primary reasons schools improve are their demographics change and because parents get involved and help to improve them. Everyone from Petworth racing all over DC for charters and OOB Public Schools makes that impossible and leads to overcrowding in Ward 3 which also makes those schools worse.
Yes, some people are-- lottery losers, late arrivals, idealistic upper income people, and lots of immigrants. But emphatically not longtime neighborhood residents.
You are missing the point. People "went first" 5 years ago. Parents *are* involved. It's not like people aren't giving DCPS a chances. But the harder they try and the longer they stay, the more they learn about how deeply and profoundly toxic DCPS actually is at the central office. That is the problem. Not people's unwillingness to work or to give it a chance.
You are missing the point.
The Ward 3 schools you are clamoring for are dealing with the exact same toxic DCPS central office.
The difference is the Ward 3 schools have a critical mass of UMC parents with the resources and clout to overcome those problems which in the process lifts all of the students at a school.
I appreciate that some people tried and didn't succeed but the answer is to duplicate the SES mix that has lifted WOTP schools not to further dissipate those students around the city rather than concentrating them in their own neighborhoods.
And it isn't the fault of those parents who have tried - it is the fault of city leaders who won't take on the charters and re-draw the boundaries and end all of the OOB feeder rights which would enable the city to create additional clusters of successful public schools in DC.
Try a little math. There is no way the SES mix of Ward 3 would be duplicated even if everyone did attend their IB. There aren't enough high income people for that. And if Ward 3 schools lost their OOB parents they would have considerably less political clout and would likely be worse schools because of it. Favoritism of Ward 3 schools is part of DCPS' dysfunction and inherent racism, but it's the only way Ward 3 schools can keep their parents satisfied. Without that's the system falls apart and there are no schools that anyone is satisfied with.
You are underestimating the rest of the city - there are many middle class and UMC families living EOTP (many families of color) living in the string of neighborhoods just east of Rock Creek Park many of whom have been living in those neighborhoods for decades and those numbers have been dramatically boosted by gentrification. But close to none of those folks are attending DCPS facilities EOTP and are finding their way into Deal/Wilson, charters or in some cases privates.
It is worth adding that the two schools everyone are clamoring for up until about 5 years ago in fact had a cohort of low income students but that is no longer the case as the paths to Deal/Wilson have narrowed.
We are not talking moving kids from Crestwood to Anacostia - we are talking about moving them to schools closer to their own neighborhoods.
The math actually isn't that hard and is getting easier by the year.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:58
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have to recommend again this article:
https://ggwash.org/view/71802/can-dcps-survive-the-coming-enrollment-surge
Money quote:
For most of the past 50 years, DC Public Schools (DCPS) has had way too many schools, and the most pressing facilities issue for the agency has been how to close and dispose of unneeded buildings in an orderly manner. Even though DC has gained over 22,000 public school students since 2008, and between 2008 and 2013 DCPS shrunk from 134 to 110 schools, the number of seats still exceeds the number of students by about 25%.
Today, DCPS has a capacity of 61,925 seats and only 48,043 students, according to the Master Facilities Plan. However, if the projections hold, by 2027 – which is only eight years away – DCPS will have 61,697 students. For the first time in 60 years—two generations—DCPS is going to be full. And it's likely going to grow from there.
Ward 3 is seeing what the rest of the city is going to be seeing very soon.
I don't know why you believe this - there is a massive amount of spare MS and HS capacity EOTP and you don't have to go to Anacostia to find it. Just at Coolidge, Cardozo and Roosevelt alone you can accommodate 1500+ kids no problem. I get that gentrifiers don't want their kids to attend those schools but people in Ward 3 shouldn't have to deal with unsafe conditions at Deal and Wilson to accommodate them either.
1) Make kids go IB for high school no matter what. It will fix deal if people know they aren't getting feeder rights.
2) Make an income maximum for the School lottery of 75k per year per family. Then no more white families buying cheap EOTP homes and expecting Ward 3 schools but poor families still have a shot for good starts .
You also need to find someway to cut UMC families out of charters or alternately allow charters to evolve over time to being more neighborhood oriented. Charters were a solution to 1995's problems - I doubt 25 years ago anyone would have anticipated so many UMC white families flooding the charters and taking slots they anticipated would be going to working class POC from poor neighborhoods. Gentrifying neighborhoods should be seeing dramatic improvements in their in-bound schools but aren't because gentrifiers aren't enrolling their kids and that in fact is causing things to worsen at these schools instead of improve as their enrollment sags.
You want to live in Petworth? Great - part and parcel of the deal should be you send your kids to their neighborhood school along with your neighbors kids who have lived in the neighborhood for generations rather than holding up your nose and using your superior resources to enroll your kids elsewhere.
LMAO. I live in Petworth and the first thing my long-time neighbours told me was that no one on the block sends their kids IB and they could help us find a school.
+1000. I tried so hard at our IB. For years. And my neighbors all rolled their eyes and went to Catholic and Friendship schools. After four years of beating my head on the brick wall of dysfunction and incompetence that is DCPS, I saw the light.
Yet your neighborhood still has under enrolled public schools that some people in the neighborhood are sending their kids too.
I get that there is some chicken and egg stuff here but someone needs to go first and primary reasons schools improve are their demographics change and because parents get involved and help to improve them. Everyone from Petworth racing all over DC for charters and OOB Public Schools makes that impossible and leads to overcrowding in Ward 3 which also makes those schools worse.
Yes, some people are-- lottery losers, late arrivals, idealistic upper income people, and lots of immigrants. But emphatically not longtime neighborhood residents.
You are missing the point. People "went first" 5 years ago. Parents *are* involved. It's not like people aren't giving DCPS a chances. But the harder they try and the longer they stay, the more they learn about how deeply and profoundly toxic DCPS actually is at the central office. That is the problem. Not people's unwillingness to work or to give it a chance.
You are missing the point.
The Ward 3 schools you are clamoring for are dealing with the exact same toxic DCPS central office.
The difference is the Ward 3 schools have a critical mass of UMC parents with the resources and clout to overcome those problems which in the process lifts all of the students at a school.
I appreciate that some people tried and didn't succeed but the answer is to duplicate the SES mix that has lifted WOTP schools not to further dissipate those students around the city rather than concentrating them in their own neighborhoods.
And it isn't the fault of those parents who have tried - it is the fault of city leaders who won't take on the charters and re-draw the boundaries and end all of the OOB feeder rights which would enable the city to create additional clusters of successful public schools in DC.
I promise you, it's not UMC white parents that make the politicians too chickensht to remove OOB rights and they're not the ones who would be hurt most by that.
+100 I sat through every meeting back in 2014 when the last boundary review process took place. The UMC whites would grumble a little and try and raise the idea of ceasing feeder rights for OOB kids and the pushback was immediate and forceful. Hell knows no fury like a DC grandma whose grandkids' school access is threatened. Good luck with that. The mayor will never touch OOB feeder rights.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:56
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
the fundamental difference is that the schools full of students are full of money. Where the numbers aren't there the offerings decline in a vicious cycle. No charters in far NW, every seat is filled, so every position on staff is filled. In 5-7 other wards, where enrollment is uncertain, principals can't be sure to keep their school psychologist year to year. Their librarians or art teachers. Principals can't make promises to families or staff and staff move away from that uncertainty.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:44
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Show me hard numbers proving DCPS gives more money to schools WOTP.
It is totally untrue that WOTP schools get more money from DCPS. In fact, the opposite is true- they get less per pupil funding. That may be as it should be (fewer at risk kids, not Title I etc), but it’s totally false to say it gets more resources from DCPS.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:38
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Show me hard numbers proving DCPS gives more money to schools WOTP.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:28
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
Its not "unfair" to give higher performing people -or schools more autonomy. Its good leadership.
It's not just more autonomy. It's sometimes straight up more money. Better principals. More care and attention from downtown staff. Lots of things.
Exactly but people don't want to realize their own privilege. I mean just the fact that the majority of students are low SES really does make a difference. There's tons of evidence that tells us low SES parents have less time or spend less time on their child's education and less time as they grow, putting them at a disadvantage even as early as PK. Their children also have a much high truancy rate, and truancy means less learning.
Low SES schools need the best too, besides the schools needing to be fixed, and hospitals, and affordable but not fake (7eleven, fast food) food.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 09:19
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
Its not "unfair" to give higher performing people -or schools more autonomy. Its good leadership.
It's not just more autonomy. It's sometimes straight up more money. Better principals. More care and attention from downtown staff. Lots of things.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 08:57
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
Its not "unfair" to give higher performing people -or schools more autonomy. Its good leadership.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 08:44
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.
Principals are done through a process that feels like speed dating but really the central office tends to get what it wants. Candidates can indicate interest in schools, and schools form panels of teachers and parents to interview the candidates. If a school really dislikes someone, downtown is unlikely to force it on them. If a school doesn't match with anyone they get an interim principal or the AP is in charge for a year.
The "it's all the same system" argument just doesn't hold water. Downtown has a lot of discretion and tends to exercise it more generously towards the Wilson pyramid and certain other favorites. That unfairness is part of why the system is dysfunctional, and it is the reason it doesn't seem so bad if you live in Ward 3. See?
Anonymous
04/01/2021 08:28
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Teachers and principals are hired through one system, yes. They are offered jobs and can choose whether to accept. They are very seldom force-placed over their own objections, and they can quit if they want.
Anonymous
04/01/2021 08:27
Subject: Why is the overcrowding issue so complex?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right- like if all the gentrifiers sent their kids to whatever the IB school is for Petworth....it would probably have a similar profile to what, Murch?
There’s nothing special about WOTP schools besides that the parents are high SES. I work with many people with the same demographic/SES profile who live EOTP, but I bought my house WOTP 10 years earlier.
It takes a good principal, good teachers, and engaged families to have a good school.
You can’t just say “education-focused parents, send your kids to the school” and it magically gets to be perfect.
WOTP schools are part of the same DCPS system that assigns principals and teachers no? I actually don’t know how those choices are made but presumably people don’t apply only to work at JKLMM etc
Principals have say in who gets hired for their schools, and the principal’s management ability matters in whether teachers accept and whether they stay for the long haul.
That’s why principals matter tremendously. A good principal can recruit and retain good teachers. Happy, motivated, and supported teachers make a strong school.
I don’t know how principals are assigned, though obviously you can’t make anyone stay somewhere they really don’t want to be.