Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 13:36     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The news is reporting that the friend who was with George that day and a passenger in his car, will invoke his 5th amendment right if asked to take the stand. Can anyone speculate on why?

Also, I'm curious, what happened to him once George was taken out of the police car and on the ground? Did the passenger guy just walk off, or was he there witnessing everything too?


Prosecutors helping the defense again this morning. Now the girlfriend’s up here, dressed up in a business suit , talking through their addiction like their suburbanites considering whether they need to go to Malibu for rehab. Ugh.

Now the girlfriend tells us he was always working out. Lifting weights, running, biking, always active. Unlimited endurance.

Um, that underlines just how monstrous and superhuman Floyd was. Now add drugs. Video don’t lie. George Floyd was huge and built. It took four of the police officers to get him out of the car. So when Officer Chauvin could keep him subdued while his fellow officers dealt with crowd control and protected against anyone slipping in from behind to attack them and free their comrade.

Accidents happen in the Fog of War, but he was just trying to protect all of us. The jury will get that.

Defense must be laughing. I love how the defense lawyer wishes her well “dealing with her opioid addiction” .

Minneapolis better batten down the hatches because Chauvin’s getting acquitted.


So...what does one wear to court?

Again, it's ok to just say you think it's fine to kill people that you feel are beneath you. It's more honest than the trash you wrote above.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 13:15     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The news is reporting that the friend who was with George that day and a passenger in his car, will invoke his 5th amendment right if asked to take the stand. Can anyone speculate on why?

Also, I'm curious, what happened to him once George was taken out of the police car and on the ground? Did the passenger guy just walk off, or was he there witnessing everything too?


Prosecutors helping the defense again this morning. Now the girlfriend’s up here, dressed up in a business suit , talking through their addiction like their suburbanites considering whether they need to go to Malibu for rehab. Ugh.

Now the girlfriend tells us he was always working out. Lifting weights, running, biking, always active. Unlimited endurance.

Um, that underlines just how monstrous and superhuman Floyd was. Now add drugs. Video don’t lie. George Floyd was huge and built. It took four of the police officers to get him out of the car. So when Officer Chauvin could keep him subdued while his fellow officers dealt with crowd control and protected against anyone slipping in from behind to attack them and free their comrade.

Accidents happen in the Fog of War, but he was just trying to protect all of us. The jury will get that.

Defense must be laughing. I love how the defense lawyer wishes her well “dealing with her opioid addiction” .

Minneapolis better batten down the hatches because Chauvin’s getting acquitted.


So, because George Floyd used drugs and was not from the suburbs, he deserved to be tortured by police and ultimately killed? And you have the gall to call this an accident?

George Floyd's character is not on trial here. The malicious and negligent actions of Derek Chauvin are. What the hell is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 12:53     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chauvin will be convicted. There is a video of the entire crime.End of story.
except Floyd had two illegals drugs in his system, had Covid, had a heart condition. I want him convicted too and think he killed him. But this is why it’s not cut and dry.


I think even if he didn't have any drugs the knee on the neck would have killed him.


Also, legally, the medical situation of the injured/killed person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them. If you shoot a person, it doesn't matter that they had terminal cancer or were about to die of an overdose anyway; also maybe they could have been saved, but for you killing them.

Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 12:47     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 12:41     Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

The video they just showed of the paramedics and the officers were on top of him- that viewpoint shows that the 2nd officer next to Chauvin had his hand on George Floyds back. There is no WAY in any dimension that he didnt know that George had stopped breathing.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 12:24     Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:Darnit, I had a work zoom and couldn't listen to the girlfriend's cross-examination. What happened?


You can find it on Youtube.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 11:34     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chauvin will be convicted. There is a video of the entire crime.End of story.
except Floyd had two illegals drugs in his system, had Covid, had a heart condition. I want him convicted too and think he killed him. But this is why it’s not cut and dry.


I think even if he didn't have any drugs the knee on the neck would have killed him.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 11:32     Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Darnit, I had a work zoom and couldn't listen to the girlfriend's cross-examination. What happened?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 11:11     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

OK, I love the fact that since people are on drugs, they deserve to die. My small hometown was full of people strung out on whatever they could score. We are all white. Heck, I waan addict for 7 years and had arrests but never ONCE was I treated with disrespect. The officers apologized to me profusely for having to arrest me and told me they just want to help me get well. Never once did I feel my life was in danger but I am not big, black and menacing. So, not a threat.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 11:04     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

^^ Maurice was the passenger in the car with Floyd.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 11:03     Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

The girlfriend just testified that Maurice gave them drugs.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 10:57     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:The news is reporting that the friend who was with George that day and a passenger in his car, will invoke his 5th amendment right if asked to take the stand. Can anyone speculate on why?

Also, I'm curious, what happened to him once George was taken out of the police car and on the ground? Did the passenger guy just walk off, or was he there witnessing everything too?


Prosecutors helping the defense again this morning. Now the girlfriend’s up here, dressed up in a business suit , talking through their addiction like their suburbanites considering whether they need to go to Malibu for rehab. Ugh.

Now the girlfriend tells us he was always working out. Lifting weights, running, biking, always active. Unlimited endurance.

Um, that underlines just how monstrous and superhuman Floyd was. Now add drugs. Video don’t lie. George Floyd was huge and built. It took four of the police officers to get him out of the car. So when Officer Chauvin could keep him subdued while his fellow officers dealt with crowd control and protected against anyone slipping in from behind to attack them and free their comrade.

Accidents happen in the Fog of War, but he was just trying to protect all of us. The jury will get that.

Defense must be laughing. I love how the defense lawyer wishes her well “dealing with her opioid addiction” .

Minneapolis better batten down the hatches because Chauvin’s getting acquitted.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 10:46     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:The news is reporting that the friend who was with George that day and a passenger in his car, will invoke his 5th amendment right if asked to take the stand. Can anyone speculate on why?

Also, I'm curious, what happened to him once George was taken out of the police car and on the ground? Did the passenger guy just walk off, or was he there witnessing everything too?
.

He probably sold Floyd the drugs.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 10:09     Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

The news is reporting that the friend who was with George that day and a passenger in his car, will invoke his 5th amendment right if asked to take the stand. Can anyone speculate on why?

Also, I'm curious, what happened to him once George was taken out of the police car and on the ground? Did the passenger guy just walk off, or was he there witnessing everything too?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2021 00:23     Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.


That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.


I strongly disagree. The police officer had a history of being rough with suspects. He used a choke technique that was completely uncalled for, and especially for that length of time. Objectively, he knew doing it for that long would potentially kill someone, and it did. Whether or not he was in a daze of a power trip or reflexively acted against the wishes of everyone around him, does not matter - as others have stated, he should have been master of the situation, controlled his punitive and contrarian urges, and he wasn't and didn't. He is absolutely guilty of second degree murder, the worst charge brought against him.