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Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Seal of Biliteracy on their diplomas? Whoohoo!!!!!

Give us a break.

We know a number of neighborhood kids who started at YuYing in K who are graduating from DCI this year. They certainly alren't fluent in Chinese. Not remotely. We happen to be fluent, so we know they aren't, nowhere near.

Look, this has nothing to do with putting the kids down, but rather correcting the lie you stated. Not all the graduates of 2020 got that seal.
You don’t need to be fluent. You need to be proficient. That is good enough for some kids and their families.

My friend is Chinese. Her parents immigrated to this country. She is 1st generation and you know what? She’s not fluent either. Reality is even kids who have native parents, it’s hard to be fluent especially in Chinese.

I’m Vietnamese, came here when I was 4. Far from fluent.

Both of our parents only speak in our native language to us too.

People have different experiences, expectations, and resources and it’s sad that you have to put these kids down.

Get a grip. Nobody's putting the kids down. It's the system that's broken, handing out silly bilingual certificates to kids who can hardly speak languages they've studied like crazy since age 4 or 5.

Language immersion in public schools in this city generally leaves a lot to be desired, other than for Spanish perhaps. Sad that few stakeholders face the truth and push for change.

Are you for real? PP was absolutely putting the kids down. I suggest you re-read the post. Then again, maybe you are the PP.

I also suggest you re-read the requirements to get the bilingual certificates. Kids who can “hardly speak the language” don’t score well on language exams. Guess you haven’t figured out that one yet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Seal of Biliteracy on their diplomas? Whoohoo!!!!!

Give us a break.

We know a number of neighborhood kids who started at YuYing in K who are graduating from DCI this year. They certainly alren't fluent in Chinese. Not remotely. We happen to be fluent, so we know they aren't, nowhere near.

You don’t need to be fluent. You need to be proficient. That is good enough for some kids and their families.

My friend is Chinese. Her parents immigrated to this country. She is 1st generation and you know what? She’s not fluent either. Reality is even kids who have native parents, it’s hard to be fluent especially in Chinese.

I’m Vietnamese, came here when I was 4. Far from fluent.

Both of our parents only speak in our native language to us too.

People have different experiences, expectations, and resources and it’s sad that you have to put these kids down.

Get a grip. Nobody's putting the kids down. It's the system that's broken, handing out silly bilingual certificates to kids who can hardly speak languages they've studied like crazy since age 4 or 5.

Language immersion in public schools in this city generally leaves a lot to be desired, other than for Spanish perhaps. Sad that few stakeholders face the truth and push for change.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Seal of Biliteracy on their diplomas? Whoohoo!!!!!

Give us a break.

We know a number of neighborhood kids who started at YuYing in K who are graduating from DCI this year. They certainly alren't fluent in Chinese. Not remotely. We happen to be fluent, so we know they aren't, nowhere near.

You don’t need to be fluent. You need to be proficient. That is good enough for some kids and their families.

My friend is Chinese. Her parents immigrated to this country. She is 1st generation and you know what? She’s not fluent either. Reality is even kids who have native parents, it’s hard to be fluent especially in Chinese.

I’m Vietnamese, came here when I was 4. Far from fluent.

Both of our parents only speak in our native language to us too.

People have different experiences, expectations, and resources and it’s sad that you have to put these kids down.

Anonymous wrote:Well read a bit further, a DCPS assessment qualifies. An outside assessment would likely be more rigorous.

Automatic Qualification for the Seal of Biliteracy

Some students will qualify automatically for the DCPS Seal of Biliteracy. These students will have demonstrated their proficiency by means of an assessment that is tracked in the DCPS data system.

Anonymous wrote:Well read a bit further, a DCPS assessment qualifies. An outside assessment would likely be more rigorous.

Automatic Qualification for the Seal of Biliteracy

Some students will qualify automatically for the DCPS Seal of Biliteracy. These students will have demonstrated their proficiency by means of an assessment that is tracked in the DCPS data system.

Anonymous wrote:It is clear from the link that just being in a language track in DCPS allows you to earn the seal.

There is no objective qualification required.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

What? They did not all earn that seal.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Seal of Biliteracy on their diplomas? Whoohoo!!!!!

Give us a break.

We know a number of neighborhood kids who started at YuYing in K who are graduating from DCI this year. They certainly alren't fluent in Chinese. Not remotely. We happen to be fluent, so we know they aren't, nowhere near.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!