Anonymous wrote:Strom PP. I should add I agree I don't think Piers obsession with Meghan had a racial component. I think he was mad, hurt that he didn't get a wedding invite, and still in love with her after one visit (especially with her photo in the paper every day) that he used the racism permeating British society to hit backa t her and cost along on his haterfest for 3 years.

You don't have to be racist to use racism to your advantage. Its been done for centuries.

Please explain to me how you can use racism to your advantage — without actually being racist?
Are you saying that the people taking advantage of — and actively benefitting from — racism don’t define themselves as “racist “? Or something else?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think race had anything to do with Piers. He clearly adored Meghan to the point of developing an obsession. A racist wouldn’t do that.

Based on his own words in various videos, the man had an obvious sexual attraction to her that became a fixation. A racist wouldn’t be attracted to a biracial person. He clearly was attracted to her. I mean, those videos are stalkerish.

His hateful rants were driven by being scorned/ghosted. That’s obvious. Not racism. This is crazy ex-girlfriend behavior.

Absolutely not true. How do you think Americans became so 'mixed'? Almost every American has some other racial blood in them if they've been here 3 generations or more.

Slaves and servants were raped continuously by white masters - they weren't racists? Strom Thurmond had a black mistress and a black daughter - he wasn't racist?

You can be racist and obsessed with and/or attracted to individuals of a different race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

https://www.pulitzer.org/article/paragon-jim-crow-south-kept-little-secret

Rape is a crime of violence, not love.

I find it befuddling that you are comparing Piers’ very obvious fan-girl crush to slave masters raping women.

Since when is attraction equivalent to love?

You think every rapist who went after a specific type of woman...very serial murderer who only fixated on a specific type of victim..wasn't interested or attracted by certain characteristics?

You can also be attracted to someone and not in love with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think race had anything to do with Piers. He clearly adored Meghan to the point of developing an obsession. A racist wouldn’t do that.

Based on his own words in various videos, the man had an obvious sexual attraction to her that became a fixation. A racist wouldn’t be attracted to a biracial person. He clearly was attracted to her. I mean, those videos are stalkerish.

His hateful rants were driven by being scorned/ghosted. That’s obvious. Not racism. This is crazy ex-girlfriend behavior.

Absolutely not true. How do you think Americans became so 'mixed'? Almost every American has some other racial blood in them if they've been here 3 generations or more.

Slaves and servants were raped continuously by white masters - they weren't racists? Strom Thurmond had a black mistress and a black daughter - he wasn't racist?

You can be racist and obsessed with and/or attracted to individuals of a different race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

https://www.pulitzer.org/article/paragon-jim-crow-south-kept-little-secret

Rape is a crime of violence, not love.

I find it befuddling that you are comparing Piers’ very obvious fan-girl crush to slave masters raping women.

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Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of the BRF or Megan, Piers is a tool! He clearly had some sort of ax to grind with Megan. I don’t know but he was obsessed with her. The other anchor called him out on it too.

Piers was an old windbag. Good riddance! Yay!

Yes, they used to be gossipy chums and she'd come into town and they'd meet up for a pint and dish about the who's who of Britain and the ins and outs of Hollywood. It doesn't appear that they dated at all. It wasn't that. It was that he enjoyed the flattery of her wanting to be in his company and he was a big shot. At the time, HE was a big deal. And suddenly, she got her in with Harry and ghosted Piers like yesterday's news. He got his feelings hurt, but in a monstrous way. His attitude wasn't sadness, it was "how dare you treat me like YOU aren't good enough for ME you big fraud!" So instead of moving on, he made it his mission to "expose" her, but it only made him look more and more petty.

I don't think she ghosted him and logically I am sure he realizes that is not the case either. Once she started dating Harry hanging out with any media person in a capacity like they were would just be bad. Too easy to say the wrong thing or slip up and then hear it repeated on the news. So I don't blame her and he should have understood.

Strom PP. I should add I agree I don't think Piers obsession with Meghan had a racial component. I think he was mad, hurt that he didn't get a wedding invite, and still in love with her after one visit (especially with her photo in the paper every day) that he used the racism permeating British society to hit backa t her and cost along on his haterfest for 3 years.

You don't have to be racist to use racism to your advantage. Its been done for centuries.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think race had anything to do with Piers. He clearly adored Meghan to the point of developing an obsession. A racist wouldn’t do that.

Based on his own words in various videos, the man had an obvious sexual attraction to her that became a fixation. A racist wouldn’t be attracted to a biracial person. He clearly was attracted to her. I mean, those videos are stalkerish.

His hateful rants were driven by being scorned/ghosted. That’s obvious. Not racism. This is crazy ex-girlfriend behavior.

Absolutely not true. How do you think Americans became so 'mixed'? Almost every American has some other racial blood in them if they've been here 3 generations or more.

Slaves and servants were raped continuously by white masters - they weren't racists? Strom Thurmond had a black mistress and a black daughter - he wasn't racist?

You can be racist and obsessed with and/or attracted to individuals of a different race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

https://www.pulitzer.org/article/paragon-jim-crow-south-kept-little-secret

I don’t think race had anything to do with Piers. He clearly adored Meghan to the point of developing an obsession. A racist wouldn’t do that.

Based on his own words in various videos, the man had an obvious sexual attraction to her that became a fixation. A racist wouldn’t be attracted to a biracial person. He clearly was attracted to her. I mean, those videos are stalkerish.

His hateful rants were driven by being scorned/ghosted. That’s obvious. Not racism. This is crazy ex-girlfriend behavior.

Anonymous wrote:For him to be this gushing? This is the British male equivalent of 'I wanted to propose the second I met her'.

No wonder he spent 4 years hate-stalking her every move.

Wow. Just: Wow. What’s up with his wife? Something this public and this deep can’t be making for a happy home life.
I wondered if Piers bothered to call Meghan after they met — or if he just thought she should reach out to him and went batshit ballistic when she didn’t.

Seriously, most of us “meet” people on apps, maybe meet once face to face, pretty regularly without assuming a “friendship that doesn’t exist and without trying to publicly ruin their lives.

This misuse of the media to trash someone who did absolutely nothing wrong is pretty sick and beyond deplorable. Horrible for Meghan, horrible for Harry, and horrible for this man’s wife. Probably pretty profitable though. To quote my new hero Alex Beresford: Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

Awesome video though!

Don't forget Piers is 16 years older than her. Rather the same age difference between Prime Minister Johnson and his current fling. He was married when he met her, he was married during the interview above, and he's still married now. Disgusting.

For him to be this gushing? This is the British male equivalent of 'I wanted to propose the second I met her'.

No wonder he spent 4 years hate-stalking her every move.

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Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of the BRF or Megan, Piers is a tool! He clearly had some sort of ax to grind with Megan. I don’t know but he was obsessed with her. The other anchor called him out on it too.

Piers was an old windbag. Good riddance! Yay!

Yes, they used to be gossipy chums and she'd come into town and they'd meet up for a pint and dish about the who's who of Britain and the ins and outs of Hollywood. It doesn't appear that they dated at all. It wasn't that. It was that he enjoyed the flattery of her wanting to be in his company and he was a big shot. At the time, HE was a big deal. And suddenly, she got her in with Harry and ghosted Piers like yesterday's news. He got his feelings hurt, but in a monstrous way. His attitude wasn't sadness, it was "how dare you treat me like YOU aren't good enough for ME you big fraud!" So instead of moving on, he made it his mission to "expose" her, but it only made him look more and more petty.

He met her ONE TIME and she never returned his phone calls. He’s been a bitter, jealous, obsessed a-hole ever since. The amount of time he spends talking and tweeting about her borders on stalkerish psycho insanity. He seems to think about her every waking minute while she probably barely remembers the dinner.

It is amazing how this attractive and intelligent woman has men wrapped around her finger and then ready to destroy her. Morgan is bat shit crazy when it comes to her. Her own father adored her and she was the Golden and now he wants to destroy her.

I would add “Black” to this list, because I think her ethnicity matters to these white men who didn’t find her immediately obedient or docile or worshiping or whatever their fantasies and expectations might have been. As far as we — the public — know, the real batshit crazy stuff from both her father and from Morgan came out when Meghan would not do what they wanted her to do for them and publicly “belonged” to not only another white man, but to another white man with demonstrably higher status. Make that MUCH higher status.

I obviously can’t read their minds, but the behavior of both men has looked like narcissistic rage.

Signed: another intelligent, attractive, direct woman of color who has had more than one man act horribly — seemingly out of nowhere. It’s very confusing, noxious behavior, especially since, for me, at least, I didn’t understand until the second time I encountered such really off behavior (from a near stranger whose role was supposedly to help me navigate a new, professional environment) that it really was not about me. Or rather, that it really was not about me as a person, and possibly quite a lot about what they wanted and expected from “someone LIKE” me. And there is a whole history of colonialism behind those expectations and fantasies.

I think this has happened to every woman.

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Race has nothing to do with this.

+2 Pp, I’m sorry but I think you’re a little to Freudian.

To the people who assert that: “Race has nothing to do with this”. You know this how?
You might be right — or you might not be. It would help if you at least had something cogent to say — beyond what I’m guessing is your own personal probably not Black expressions of certainty. Those experiences are valid, but they don’t really address the point.

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Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of the BRF or Megan, Piers is a tool! He clearly had some sort of ax to grind with Megan. I don’t know but he was obsessed with her. The other anchor called him out on it too.

Piers was an old windbag. Good riddance! Yay!

Yes, they used to be gossipy chums and she'd come into town and they'd meet up for a pint and dish about the who's who of Britain and the ins and outs of Hollywood. It doesn't appear that they dated at all. It wasn't that. It was that he enjoyed the flattery of her wanting to be in his company and he was a big shot. At the time, HE was a big deal. And suddenly, she got her in with Harry and ghosted Piers like yesterday's news. He got his feelings hurt, but in a monstrous way. His attitude wasn't sadness, it was "how dare you treat me like YOU aren't good enough for ME you big fraud!" So instead of moving on, he made it his mission to "expose" her, but it only made him look more and more petty.

He met her ONE TIME and she never returned his phone calls. He’s been a bitter, jealous, obsessed a-hole ever since. The amount of time he spends talking and tweeting about her borders on stalkerish psycho insanity. He seems to think about her every waking minute while she probably barely remembers the dinner.

It is amazing how this attractive and intelligent woman has men wrapped around her finger and then ready to destroy her. Morgan is bat shit crazy when it comes to her. Her own father adored her and she was the Golden and now he wants to destroy her.

I would add “Black” to this list, because I think her ethnicity matters to these white men who didn’t find her immediately obedient or docile or worshiping or whatever their fantasies and expectations might have been. As far as we — the public — know, the real batshit crazy stuff from both her father and from Morgan came out when Meghan would not do what they wanted her to do for them and publicly “belonged” to not only another white man, but to another white man with demonstrably higher status. Make that MUCH higher status.

I obviously can’t read their minds, but the behavior of both men has looked like narcissistic rage.

Signed: another intelligent, attractive, direct woman of color who has had more than one man act horribly — seemingly out of nowhere. It’s very confusing, noxious behavior, especially since, for me, at least, I didn’t understand until the second time I encountered such really off behavior (from a near stranger whose role was supposedly to help me navigate a new, professional environment) that it really was not about me. Or rather, that it really was not about me as a person, and possibly quite a lot about what they wanted and expected from “someone LIKE” me. And there is a whole history of colonialism behind those expectations and fantasies.

I think this has happened to every woman.

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Race has nothing to do with this.

+2 Pp, I’m sorry but I think you’re a little to Freudian.

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Anonymous wrote:Oooh.

I think this is SO true. I had a naive belief that the British were more civilized than us Americans, but then I started reading their tabloids a few years ago and was shocked by how disgusting they are. It’s like the Enquirer but there are bunches of them and a very high readership.

Gross. Between that an UKIP/Brexit, I realize there is just as much idiocy over there as here. Maybe more.

Definitely more over there. It always makes me laugh when DCUMers tout the UK or Europe as some bastion of civility and culture. They have more than their share of lowbrow, classless underbelly.

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he team BRF?

Yes, but he went way too far in his insane anti-Meghan diatribes.

He got called out live on Good Morning Britain today and was fired by that evening. Brilliance at work.

Too funny. As soon as the co-host said Meghan had “cut off” Piers, Piers huffs out. He’s clearly mortified that the world knows she ghosted him. But he’s made it so much worse with his very public vendetta against her! He has some issues, to say the least.

I know! He should have just realized that MM ghosts everyone, even family. He needs to get over himself.

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Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of the BRF or Megan, Piers is a tool! He clearly had some sort of ax to grind with Megan. I don’t know but he was obsessed with her. The other anchor called him out on it too.

Piers was an old windbag. Good riddance! Yay!

Yes, they used to be gossipy chums and she'd come into town and they'd meet up for a pint and dish about the who's who of Britain and the ins and outs of Hollywood. It doesn't appear that they dated at all. It wasn't that. It was that he enjoyed the flattery of her wanting to be in his company and he was a big shot. At the time, HE was a big deal. And suddenly, she got her in with Harry and ghosted Piers like yesterday's news. He got his feelings hurt, but in a monstrous way. His attitude wasn't sadness, it was "how dare you treat me like YOU aren't good enough for ME you big fraud!" So instead of moving on, he made it his mission to "expose" her, but it only made him look more and more petty.

He met her ONE TIME and she never returned his phone calls. He’s been a bitter, jealous, obsessed a-hole ever since. The amount of time he spends talking and tweeting about her borders on stalkerish psycho insanity. He seems to think about her every waking minute while she probably barely remembers the dinner.

It is amazing how this attractive and intelligent woman has men wrapped around her finger and then ready to destroy her. Morgan is bat shit crazy when it comes to her. Her own father adored her and she was the Golden and now he wants to destroy her.

I would add “Black” to this list, because I think her ethnicity matters to these white men who didn’t find her immediately obedient or docile or worshiping or whatever their fantasies and expectations might have been. As far as we — the public — know, the real batshit crazy stuff from both her father and from Morgan came out when Meghan would not do what they wanted her to do for them and publicly “belonged” to not only another white man, but to another white man with demonstrably higher status. Make that MUCH higher status.

I obviously can’t read their minds, but the behavior of both men has looked like narcissistic rage.

Signed: another intelligent, attractive, direct woman of color who has had more than one man act horribly — seemingly out of nowhere. It’s very confusing, noxious behavior, especially since, for me, at least, I didn’t understand until the second time I encountered such really off behavior (from a near stranger whose role was supposedly to help me navigate a new, professional environment) that it really was not about me. Or rather, that it really was not about me as a person, and possibly quite a lot about what they wanted and expected from “someone LIKE” me. And there is a whole history of colonialism behind those expectations and fantasies.

I think this has happened to every woman.

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Race has nothing to do with this.