Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:41     Subject: Re:Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.


You write like you are a Russian troll.

Watching your breathing and ignoring thoughts is not spiritual.

There are many forms of spiritual meditation,in Christianity and Buddhism, among others. Those are not what are being taught.


It may love ignoring your own thoughts, because they are obviously worthless.


Not sure I understand the word salad.

Assume from your posts you would be absolutely fine with students praying in school, which is a *religious* form of meditation. But it's hard to tell from the broken English and odd phrasing.

Is this a new troll campaign or something?
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:36     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.



What? Meditation can be absolutely secular. 1000% secular.

Get a grip.


You can always kneel, close your eyes, put your hands together pointing up (🙏🏻), focus and make a wish.

What if your kid was being told to make a wish in such way, would you be ok with it when the school tells you it’s secular?


What's the non-religious purpose of putting your hands together in a praying fashion?

The movements of yoga have purpose other than supplication or praying.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:35     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:Meditation is one of the best ways to learn how to manage vagal tone. we could all benefit from it.

There’s absolutely nothing religious about it. you can practice mindfulness and relationship with your believe system but it’s not a requirement of it, at all.

578 breathing is a fantastic place to start.


Autocorrect hates me.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:35     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Meditation is one of the best ways to learn how to manage vagal tone. we could all benefit from it.

There’s absolutely nothing religious about it. you can practice mindfulness and relationship with your believe system but it’s not a requirement of it, at all.

578 breathing is a fantastic place to start.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:33     Subject: Re:Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Meditation is like Christmas tree. It is mot religious oer se but you can put it in the context.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 15:04     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.



What? Meditation can be absolutely secular. 1000% secular.

Get a grip.


NP here.

Correction. Meditation is a tool used by many religions. The tool itself it not a religious tool as it is frequently used by many secular organizations and individuals. It can be religious and it can be non-religious depending on how you practice it.

Those trying to push that it is a religious practice are like the ones saying that social media is a right wing conservative practice because Trump used it so much.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 14:53     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
This conversation is zany and all over the place. I love it.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 14:26     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I meditate and I’m an atheist. Mindfulness meditation is not a religious practice.


Who made you the authority on this? You’re in denial. You’re a self called atheist seeking and longing for spirituality.

Any person raised in an Eastern culture and is aquatinted with meditation will tell you that meditation is at a minimum a spiritual practice. For many it’s part of religion. I am not mentioning Western meditation here, because it’s different from the Eastern one, and different from the one being taught in schools.


Nope not spiritual. I ain't longing for spirituality. Have you done MBSR? Mindfulness? It doesn't even have to mean sitting on a cushion and "meditating." It's just one of many tools used to deal with stress. Not the end all be all, but helpful.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2021 11:01     Subject: Re:Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.


You write like you are a Russian troll.

Watching your breathing and ignoring thoughts is not spiritual.

There are many forms of spiritual meditation,in Christianity and Buddhism, among others. Those are not what are being taught.


It may love ignoring your own thoughts, because they are obviously worthless.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 18:17     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.



What? Meditation can be absolutely secular. 1000% secular.

Get a grip.




You can always kneel, close your eyes, put your hands together pointing up (🙏🏻), focus and make a wish.

What if your kid was being told to make a wish in such way, would you be ok with it when the school tells you it’s secular?

Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 17:32     Subject: Re:Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.


You write like you are a Russian troll.

Watching your breathing and ignoring thoughts is not spiritual.

There are many forms of spiritual meditation,in Christianity and Buddhism, among others. Those are not what are being taught.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 17:28     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
If admin is using it as a replacement for solving problems that IS a problem.

Kids taking a few minutes to relax? I don't see the issue. No different than 35 years ago telling kids to take a deep breath and count to 10 before reacting to something.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 17:28     Subject: Re:Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Meditation can be a religious practice for some people.
Meditation can be a way to relax for others and have nothing to do with any religion
Meditation can be cultural for other people.
Meditation can be all of the above for other people.

I am in the second group. Meditation is something that I try to do to relax that has no relationship to my religion. This is the type of meditation that is done in schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 16:45     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:My issue with meditation is not the religious aspect but how it is viewed as a panacea for all problems. As a fed, my office pushed this on us rather than undergoing necessary reforms to deal with the stressful and unproductive work environment. It puts the onus back on the employee (or in OP's case, the kid) to manage external factors without real change.


I agree with you on this.

The reason morale plummeted at my school in 2019 was that the admin team stopped solving problems and just referred kids to the “chill zone” room and told adults to register for a free mindfulness app.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2021 15:34     Subject: Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools
Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.



What? Meditation can be absolutely secular. 1000% secular.

Get a grip.