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Anonymous wrote:WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

These are great points, sadly.

Except 7am CA means 10am FL

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Yes, I do hope he is okay but what's so special about him getting hurt? He plays golf for living. WTH?

+1 I hope he is okay, but he's just another athlete turned train wreck.

He continues to attract lots of personal chaos. He is 45 yo. I guess you cannot change tiger's stripes.

Earl (dad) had extramarital affairs of his own, which are presented as a deep-seeded contribution to the way Tiger began to chart his own path in the early 2000s. Classic inter generational trauma and dysfunction. Astronomical fame and $$ leads to a severe sense of entitlement and people covering for your poor behavior and not holding you accountable.

My friend's dad - a professional golfer with a well-known name - was on the Tour when Tiger joined the pros and began his ascent to greatness.

He told us that Tiger, even at the age of 20, was a grade-A assh#le. At that point, the Tour had stars - Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicholas, Phil Mickelson - but no true global superstars. Tiger came about right when the internet was being popularized and that helped send his fame through the roof. Tiger also expanded the game's popularity in Asia and it was a massive untapped market.

There was a camaraderie to being on the Tour - you saw the same guys every weekend in different cities. You were all away from your families. Yes, they were all insanely competitive but it was a brotherhood. You'd eat dinner together and share some drinks. You all shared the same locker room.

Tiger rejected all of that from the outset. He was an intense loner and demanded his own locker room, away from the others. He did not socialize with the other golfers and wasn't on friendly terms with most of them. Tiger made a lot of enemies on the Tour and it wasn't due to his success. In fact, Tiger was great for everyone - he brought in more eyeballs, more advertising dollars, bigger prize purses, and bigger sponsorship deals for every golfer. The money, in fact, trickled down. So everyone was rooting for Tiger's success, even if it meant he bumped guys from the winners podium.

But his sense of entitlement and ego has always been threw the roof. When you're the greatest, you don't need to be humble or play down your achievements. But you do need to be a good person. The sense I got from my friend's dad was that Tiger really wasn't a good person from the beginning. And no one on the Tour was surprised when his image crumbled under the weight of lies and scandal. It aligned with how he treated other golfers.

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin's son was in a very similar accident: single car, speeding, winding road, going around the curb, no skid marks, flipped over 5 times, was ejected from the vehicle because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt (why, we will never know). He died on impact. He was 20.

Tiger is lucky to be alive. His seat belt saved him. His car rolled several times as well, he should have been thrown out. But he wasn't which is wonderful.

Whether you love him or hate him, he's got kids who do love him so I am thankful he is alive. He will get the best medical care because he's rich and famous. If he can't play golf again, that's sad for him, but he's financially secure so it won't be a deal breaker.

If there is anything you can take from this it is to stop speeding and wear your seatbelt. Some are like Tiger and live, others are like my cousin and die. I hate to see even one more.

I worry about the pill addiction from the pain and multiple surgeries. In addition to medical help, he needs mental/addiction team working with him monitoring meds.

Oh and I’m very sorry about your cousin’s son. My cousin’s husband was killed a few weeks ago in a crash—she found out she was pregnant with their second child a week after the funeral.

PP here. I am sorry for your loss too.

His leg injuries are terrifying. He is so lucky he did not lose his leg. I pray for him and his recovery and for his children. How scary for him and his family.

Anonymous wrote:WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

He was in CA for the past week

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Anonymous wrote:Just cannot believe that this news dominated the airwaves all day yesterday. America’s obsession with sports celebrities is pathetic.

There's not much else happening.

There was an incredibly important Senate hearing with the Capitol and Metro PD about the Jan. 6th insurrection!

I love Nicolle Wallace and her show but was really unpleasantly surprised when they spent most of her two hours on air talking about Tiger Woods, especially when it became clear that it was not life threatening. That was a messed up decision.

Maybe it should have been but it was just a circus. Better to not spend much time letting the loons push their denialism.

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Anonymous wrote:Just cannot believe that this news dominated the airwaves all day yesterday. America’s obsession with sports celebrities is pathetic.

There's not much else happening.

There was an incredibly important Senate hearing with the Capitol and Metro PD about the Jan. 6th insurrection!

I love Nicolle Wallace and her show but was really unpleasantly surprised when they spent most of her two hours on air talking about Tiger Woods, especially when it became clear that it was not life threatening. That was a messed up decision.

Anonymous wrote:WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

These are great points, sadly.

Anonymous wrote:WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

PP/death wish and meant to add “jet lag” - and that’s a very early morning!

Totally agree w/ your statement that he should have been assigned a driver!

My own BFF was tasked years ago to shuttle a long retired Olympian between venues - and my friend was an entry level marketing assistant driving her company’s econo-box sedan! We still laugh about this! So of way back in the early 2000s this was a thing...

Anonymous wrote:WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

He always drives himself, always has.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s done.

And the best to ever do it with 900 million in the bank and lots more coming his way.

People either are jealous of greatness or hold people to standards that they can't achieve themselves. He is a golfer, that's what he does, who cares about the rest. If you are obsessed with him failing then he succeeded at annoying you.

He has definitely succeeded in annoying me. I had a lot of respect for him as a golfer and he seemed like a decent family guy until the shit hit the fan with all his cheating and total disregard for the effect on his wife and kids. He has serious serious issues that $900 million won't solve. His comeback in golf has been mildly successful but more often not. I'd say now he's done with pro golf. The karma bus has pretty much run right over him. I am not inclined to forgive and forget as many people are just because he was once a great golfer. I'm glad he didn't die though. I don't personally believe narcissistic serial cheaters deserve to die for their sins.

Mildly successful? He has 11 Tournament wins since his breakup with his wife. That alone puts him in the top 75 of all time in just that period of time. Any golfer on the tour would kill to have half that or even just 1 or 2 wins.

His impact on the game is beyond any of player at any point in history., The ratings show that. Is he probably an ass, absolutely like any professional athlete or top executive but I don't care what they are like I enjoy watching people perform at a high level

WHY WAS HE DRIVING???

I've been to country club events with my husband and those courtesy sponsor SUVs are chauffeured, especially for A-list players. It makes zero sense that someone of Tiger's stature was tooling around from the hotel to a course in a courtesy SUV instead of a driver -- especially with California traffic!

At the very least he needs to fire his agents, this man should not have been behind the wheel of a car at an event. In California no less, which means 7am cash time was actually 4am at his home in Florida.

Especially since he was still recovering from injuries!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My cousin's son was in a very similar accident: single car, speeding, winding road, going around the curb, no skid marks, flipped over 5 times, was ejected from the vehicle because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt (why, we will never know). He died on impact. He was 20.

Tiger is lucky to be alive. His seat belt saved him. His car rolled several times as well, he should have been thrown out. But he wasn't which is wonderful.

Whether you love him or hate him, he's got kids who do love him so I am thankful he is alive. He will get the best medical care because he's rich and famous. If he can't play golf again, that's sad for him, but he's financially secure so it won't be a deal breaker.

If there is anything you can take from this it is to stop speeding and wear your seatbelt. Some are like Tiger and live, others are like my cousin and die. I hate to see even one more.

I worry about the pill addiction from the pain and multiple surgeries. In addition to medical help, he needs mental/addiction team working with him monitoring meds.

PP - horrific description of your relative’s death. Truly so sorry for you and for your cousin who is undoubtedly now having to recall similarities between Tiger’s accident and their child’s.

Another PP referenced a very recent interview w Jim Nance where it appeared Tiger looked “tired” and speculated he was under the influence. I’m no expert, but on YouTube, commenters thought he was high.

My .02: horrible combination of factors; overly-tired, sleep deprived, stressed, perhaps hung over and or took prescribed pain meds that morning or even was intoxicated from night prior, running late, frustrated, decided to see how fast this cool car could go, feeling invincible...yet also depressed enough to allow himself to take a chance/become distracted. Also think he has a death wish.

Law-enforcement on the news this morning said it’s a problematic stretch of the road. Very windy and high speeds as you go downhill

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My cousin's son was in a very similar accident: single car, speeding, winding road, going around the curb, no skid marks, flipped over 5 times, was ejected from the vehicle because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt (why, we will never know). He died on impact. He was 20.

Tiger is lucky to be alive. His seat belt saved him. His car rolled several times as well, he should have been thrown out. But he wasn't which is wonderful.

Whether you love him or hate him, he's got kids who do love him so I am thankful he is alive. He will get the best medical care because he's rich and famous. If he can't play golf again, that's sad for him, but he's financially secure so it won't be a deal breaker.

If there is anything you can take from this it is to stop speeding and wear your seatbelt. Some are like Tiger and live, others are like my cousin and die. I hate to see even one more.

I worry about the pill addiction from the pain and multiple surgeries. In addition to medical help, he needs mental/addiction team working with him monitoring meds.

PP - horrific description of your relative’s death. Truly so sorry for you and for your cousin who is undoubtedly now having to recall similarities between Tiger’s accident and their child’s.

Another PP referenced a very recent interview w Jim Nance where it appeared Tiger looked “tired” and speculated he was under the influence. I’m no expert, but on YouTube, commenters thought he was high.

My .02: horrible combination of factors; overly-tired, sleep deprived, stressed, perhaps hung over and or took prescribed pain meds that morning or even was intoxicated from night prior, running late, frustrated, decided to see how fast this cool car could go, feeling invincible...yet also depressed enough to allow himself to take a chance/become distracted. Also think he has a death wish.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Yes, I do hope he is okay but what's so special about him getting hurt? He plays golf for living. WTH?

+1 I hope he is okay, but he's just another athlete turned train wreck.

He continues to attract lots of personal chaos. He is 45 yo. I guess you cannot change tiger's stripes.

Earl (dad) had extramarital affairs of his own, which are presented as a deep-seeded contribution to the way Tiger began to chart his own path in the early 2000s. Classic inter generational trauma and dysfunction. Astronomical fame and $$ leads to a severe sense of entitlement and people covering for your poor behavior and not holding you accountable.