Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 07:48     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.


And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/


But they don’t all have shots! That’s why this is so frustrating. Parents have to make this choice before we know if teachers are going to be vaccinated before school starts.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 07:48     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.


And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."



https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/






I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about bringing it home to my elderly mother.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 07:45     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Questions for teachers :

The precautions in this study were mask wearing all the time, proper ventilation, and social distancing.

1. Do schools have proper ventilation?

2. What is the plan for mask-wearing and social distancing during lunch?

TIA
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 07:27     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.


Absolutely. They also take pride in it and getting teachers sick. They’ll play party music upon return to school. It’s been said here and they’re happy to see teachers as indentured servants.


It’s been a rough year, but if this is really how you feel you should look into therapy.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 06:53     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!


Also email them today’s numbers:

874/100,000

15.1% PPR


I don’t care. I am sick of the “community spread!” crap. It’s being spreading through the community for a year. And will continue. And I still don’t care.

Go. To. School.

Give a date 1 week from today. No exemptions. Show up or get fired.


Yes, we know you don't care. You have all made that loudly, repeatedly and abundantly clear. Luckily, selfish parents have absolutely no say in when schools do or don't open, and they're sure as hell not going to "give a date 1 week from today. No exemptions. Show up or get fired."

LOL.


You can tell how few of these moms have jobs. Zero clue how any of this works from an employer POV.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 06:52     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.


And the teachers will be fine. Once the second shot kicks in, teachers will be nearly bullet proof. Add in the backdrop that class sizes will be so low, that the odds of a classroom having an infection are also low.

"Maccabi said it has 128,600 members who have seen seven days pass since full vaccine protection kicked in — and only 20 [0.015 percent] have caught the coronavirus after they were considered immunized. Ekka Zohar also noted that she found that none of the 20 vaccinees was hospitalized or suffered from a fever higher than 38.5 degrees."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 06:51     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!


Also email them today’s numbers:

874/100,000

15.1% PPR


I don’t care. I am sick of the “community spread!” crap. It’s being spreading through the community for a year. And will continue. And I still don’t care.

Go. To. School.

Give a date 1 week from today. No exemptions. Show up or get fired.


Yes, we know you don't care. You have all made that loudly, repeatedly and abundantly clear. Luckily, selfish parents have absolutely no say in when schools do or don't open, and they're sure as hell not going to "give a date 1 week from today. No exemptions. Show up or get fired."

LOL.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 06:44     Subject: Re:CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
I don’t know if someone said this BUT there’s a disclaimer on the original paper that this was done by researchers who work for the CDC but was not necessarily supported by the CDC. They are also examining other data not any they themselves have acquired. Before people freak: I’m pro open. I’m also a scientist and I see holes the size of Montana in the data they are using.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 00:53     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.


Absolutely. They also take pride in it and getting teachers sick. They’ll play party music upon return to school. It’s been said here and they’re happy to see teachers as indentured servants.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 00:41     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree with opening elementary! Always have. Not middle and high unless you cohort them. They are cohorted for student AND teacher safety. To minimize the number of people you come in contact with. Does no one get that?


From what I have read by epidemiologists who believe in opening, cohorting is good, but not strictly required IF you use other mitigation measures (6' distance, masks, sick people staying home).

Cohorting actually allows you to do things like drop the 6' requirement, as does low community spread.



There will be parents that send their kids to school sick. Gonna happen.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2021 00:36     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:You forgot this paragraph. Which sort of kills the APS and FCPS plan for middle and high school. Cohorts are needed: this was obvious in July.

The CDC recommends that schools require masks, allow for a distance of six feet between people and keep students in cohorts to limit the number of people who must quarantine in the case of an exposure.


Cohorts and lack of sufficient space kills the possibility for some publics.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2021 22:15     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!


Also email them today’s numbers:

874/100,000

15.1% PPR


I don’t care. I am sick of the “community spread!” crap. It’s being spreading through the community for a year. And will continue. And I still don’t care.

Go. To. School.

Give a date 1 week from today. No exemptions. Show up or get fired.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2021 21:32     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC team reviewed data from studies in the United States and abroad and found the experience in schools different from nursing homes and high-density worksites where rapid spread has occurred.

“The preponderance of available evidence from the fall school semester has been reassuring,” wrote three CDC researchers in a viewpoint piece published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/cdc-school-virus-spread/2021/01/26/bf949222-5fe6-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html

The only discussion we should be having now is how fast we should be opening.

Please email this to all SB reps!!!!


Also email them today’s numbers:

874/100,000

15.1% PPR


In other words, Covid is everywhere. Meaning, you're about as likely to get infected living your life as you are being in a classroom. Actually, maybe less so according to the CDC. School districts from Miami to Houston to Dallas have been open for months. Denver reopened after Christmas break. What the heck is so inherently dangerous about NoVA that the same can't be done here? It's time for teachers to get with the rest of the country and go back to work, in person.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2021 21:31     Subject: Re:CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
I know I will get 99% replies I get will be "good move on with your life" but my wife is born and raised here and I've been here since the late 90s. We have a tremendous attachment to this area and we have 3 kids and we are going to pick up and move to another state where schools are opened and people understand actual science. I cant believe my wife is the catalyst in this decision but it has come to it. Our kids have been in daycare and private K since July while most of our friends remain out of school. We wont chance next year being held hostage by teacher unions, which seems to be the case. Good luck to everyone here!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2021 21:20     Subject: CDC finds scant spread of coronavirus in schools with precautions in place
Anonymous wrote:All the northern VA systems have ignored the recommendations to cohort for middle and high. The CDC said today it is a component of safe opening, right up with masks and distancing. But they continue to ignore it

They are not ignoring it...they just cannot do it and maintain the huge number of course offerings. The secondary schools that are cohorting arent offering a bunch of languages, electives, AP/IB, honors, etc.