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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for the circumstances for why someone has to do this but tipping is for someone who goes above and beyond the expectations of whatever service is being delivered. If the pay is not good, that’s an issue between employee and employer. I won’t reward someone for simply doing the expected job to an average or worse standard. That said, I think that a living wage should be paid, but this falls on the employer to do, not me, and yes I know that cost will be past on to the customer, but again tips are rewards for superior service.

+1 This is the only ethical answer

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Anonymous wrote:Not ordering in is not an option for many people. There was a poster here who's pregnant with 4 kids at home - this is literally the only option she has. We had another poster who literally makes less than her delivery person. There are people who are immunocompromised, or living off retirement incomes. You're bullying them for tips and calling them bad people because you're hoping they'll cave (and they do). Why wouldn't you ask the company - wouldn't that incentivize them to pay more? You were the one who accepted poor terms of employment, so by your own rules you should either put up with it, or ask for and get better pay or leave the company.

Self-created problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Not ordering in is not an option for many people. There was a poster here who's pregnant with 4 kids at home - this is literally the only option she has. We had another poster who literally makes less than her delivery person. There are people who are immunocompromised, or living off retirement incomes. You're bullying them for tips and calling them bad people because you're hoping they'll cave (and they do). Why wouldn't you ask the company - wouldn't that incentivize them to pay more? You were the one who accepted poor terms of employment, so by your own rules you should either put up with it, or ask for and get better pay or leave the company.

Nobody HAS to have restaurant delivery. Nobody. My grandmother is 101 and has never used this service in her entire life.

This is BS. Tell that to the pregnant lady who can’t leave the house because she has 4 kids to take care of, or the elderly couple who’re too scared to leave the house because people are running around maskless

These people have groceries delivered, which is a separate issue. NOBODY NEEDS TO HAVE RESTAURANT DELIVERY. It is a luxury service where tips are expected, no different than a hairdresser or restaurant server.

Riiight - so you somehow deserve more of a tip while the instacart shopper who gets paid $7/hr doesn’t? The sense of entitlement you’re walking around with is incredible

Not the pp you're replying to but we use Instacart and restaurant delivery apps fairly regularly and tip both. It doesn't have to be an eithed/or type of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not ordering in is not an option for many people. There was a poster here who's pregnant with 4 kids at home - this is literally the only option she has. We had another poster who literally makes less than her delivery person. There are people who are immunocompromised, or living off retirement incomes. You're bullying them for tips and calling them bad people because you're hoping they'll cave (and they do). Why wouldn't you ask the company - wouldn't that incentivize them to pay more? You were the one who accepted poor terms of employment, so by your own rules you should either put up with it, or ask for and get better pay or leave the company.

Nobody HAS to have restaurant delivery. Nobody. My grandmother is 101 and has never used this service in her entire life.

This is BS. Tell that to the pregnant lady who can’t leave the house because she has 4 kids to take care of, or the elderly couple who’re too scared to leave the house because people are running around maskless

These people have groceries delivered, which is a separate issue. NOBODY NEEDS TO HAVE RESTAURANT DELIVERY. It is a luxury service where tips are expected, no different than a hairdresser or restaurant server.

Riiight - so you somehow deserve more of a tip while the instacart shopper who gets paid $7/hr doesn’t? The sense of entitlement you’re walking around with is incredible

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Anonymous wrote:Its such a ripoff. Even without the tip its way too expensive just to have some mediocre carry out dropped off at your house. Only fools with too much money and no brains would do this.

You might be surprised. Uber eats released its user demographic stats and a full 22% of the users are in the bottom quartile of american wage earners. When the situation is this tight, you can be sure they’re only ordering because they have to, not because they’re living the life of Riley. They don’t owe you a living, and they certainly don’t owe your employers a subsidy.

Anonymous wrote:Its such a ripoff. Even without the tip its way too expensive just to have some mediocre carry out dropped off at your house. Only fools with too much money and no brains would do this.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. But those services are expensive. It’s not worth it to me to pay more for them. So I will just quit using them. The choices are either I use them one per month or less and tip as I currently do or quit using them. I’m not willing to pay more. I will forgo the service rather than pay more, in other words.

Good call. If more people do this, it might incentivize the companies to treat their workers better.

This is the only ethical answer. Tip or don't use the service.

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+3 The same as not going to a restaurant to be served or to a hairdresser if you can't afford it.

Here’s a tip for you - if they don’t pay enough to work there without relying on the largesse of their customers, don’t work there - it isn’t necessary.

I'm sure you feel that way about hairdressers and restaurant servers too, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. But those services are expensive. It’s not worth it to me to pay more for them. So I will just quit using them. The choices are either I use them one per month or less and tip as I currently do or quit using them. I’m not willing to pay more. I will forgo the service rather than pay more, in other words.

Good call. If more people do this, it might incentivize the companies to treat their workers better.

This is the only ethical answer. Tip or don't use the service.

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+3 The same as not going to a restaurant to be served or to a hairdresser if you can't afford it.

Here’s a tip for you - if they don’t pay enough to work there without relying on the largesse of their customers, don’t work there - it isn’t necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. But those services are expensive. It’s not worth it to me to pay more for them. So I will just quit using them. The choices are either I use them one per month or less and tip as I currently do or quit using them. I’m not willing to pay more. I will forgo the service rather than pay more, in other words.

Good call. If more people do this, it might incentivize the companies to treat their workers better.

This is the only ethical answer. Tip or don't use the service.

+2

+3 The same as not going to a restaurant to be served or to a hairdresser if you can't afford it.

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Anonymous wrote:Not ordering in is not an option for many people. There was a poster here who's pregnant with 4 kids at home - this is literally the only option she has. We had another poster who literally makes less than her delivery person. There are people who are immunocompromised, or living off retirement incomes. You're bullying them for tips and calling them bad people because you're hoping they'll cave (and they do). Why wouldn't you ask the company - wouldn't that incentivize them to pay more? You were the one who accepted poor terms of employment, so by your own rules you should either put up with it, or ask for and get better pay or leave the company.

Nobody HAS to have restaurant delivery. Nobody. My grandmother is 101 and has never used this service in her entire life.

This is BS. Tell that to the pregnant lady who can’t leave the house because she has 4 kids to take care of, or the elderly couple who’re too scared to leave the house because people are running around maskless

These people have groceries delivered, which is a separate issue. NOBODY NEEDS TO HAVE RESTAURANT DELIVERY. It is a luxury service where tips are expected, no different than a hairdresser or restaurant server.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. But those services are expensive. It’s not worth it to me to pay more for them. So I will just quit using them. The choices are either I use them one per month or less and tip as I currently do or quit using them. I’m not willing to pay more. I will forgo the service rather than pay more, in other words.

Good call. If more people do this, it might incentivize the companies to treat their workers better.

This is the only ethical answer. Tip or don't use the service.

+2

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Anonymous wrote:Not ordering in is not an option for many people. There was a poster here who's pregnant with 4 kids at home - this is literally the only option she has. We had another poster who literally makes less than her delivery person. There are people who are immunocompromised, or living off retirement incomes. You're bullying them for tips and calling them bad people because you're hoping they'll cave (and they do). Why wouldn't you ask the company - wouldn't that incentivize them to pay more? You were the one who accepted poor terms of employment, so by your own rules you should either put up with it, or ask for and get better pay or leave the company.

Nobody HAS to have restaurant delivery. Nobody. My grandmother is 101 and has never used this service in her entire life.

This is BS. Tell that to the pregnant lady who can’t leave the house because she has 4 kids to take care of, or the elderly couple who’re too scared to leave the house because people are running around maskless

Anonymous wrote:Sorry for the circumstances for why someone has to do this but tipping is for someone who goes above and beyond the expectations of whatever service is being delivered. If the pay is not good, that’s an issue between employee and employer. I won’t reward someone for simply doing the expected job to an average or worse standard. That said, I think that a living wage should be paid, but this falls on the employer to do, not me, and yes I know that cost will be past on to the customer, but again tips are rewards for superior service.