Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Exactly this. WTF are these (probably single/divorced) nasty people on this thread saying he’s gay going on abt? god just bc your marriage is a failure or you couldn’t get someone to settle for your ass doesn’t mean everyone is secretly unhappy.
And not he show...to all the haters saying it’s all the same.....uh yea. that’s the point duh. people are hiring SHEA for the MCGEE look. That’s what the Fing want. How did you not pick up on that? You might think it’s all the same but that’s literally what people are requesting bc they LIKE IT.
Stop hating this woman for being more successful than you are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.
No. You don’t get it.
When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.
When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.
At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.
Eh, I think drag culture is arguably minstrel misogyny - it’s mocking and degrading women. Here, her husband isn’t effeminate - he’s just very California and doesn’t fit it in outdoorsy Utah and has no practical construction know-how. So, it is incorrect to use dislike of McGhee or the lack of sexual chemistry with his spouse as an example of misogyny. It isn’t. It might be homophobic- b/c there is an implication that being gay is less than.
So he’s being accused of being gay because he isn’t in construction and not outdoorsy enough (???). But this is no commentary on his masculinity. Mmkay.
It is not negative commentary on women or womenhood - thus, not misogyny...yikes.
Misogyny is contempt of women.
Men in this country are told over and over from the time they are young boys that stereotypical feminine qualities, interests, tendencies (like being too emotional) are not "cool" (if they're lucky) or they're told it's flat out not allowed for them. Why is this the worst thing a guy could be? Contempt of women. We as women internalize it too.
Assuming any man who doesn't conform to male standards is gay, which happens regularly, is not some objective fact check devoid of meaning. Please. It's a school yard way of taking him down a notch. It's a socially acceptable way to call out a guy who doesn't seem masculine enough for you. Internalized misogyny.
Nope. That’s homophobia. Very different.
Anonymous wrote:Have all of you on your soapbox about “homophobia” and “misogyny” never been able to tell when someone is gay? It has very little to do with mannerisms and everything to do with how they react to and interact with the opposite sex. I knew several guys growing up who had zero feminine mannerisms, and when they “came out” later, we all said “well, yeah.” I assumed that they assumed we all knew. Gay people talk about having “gaydar,” but it’s really just being observant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's so white, but they are Mormons in Utah...
Also, there are lots of closeted gay men in that world and might her husband be one of them?
My first thought was the husband is gay.
I concur. My kids even said that, they're tweens.
I found the basketballers 22K SF mansion episode so odd. They showed a basketball court a bedroom and a "great room" and that was it. The interjection of their children is super inappropriate and those segments are awkward and boring. I found it crazy that the family seemed happy to move into a 100% done detailed home....didnt they have any personal art or mementos? Like, she styled each bookcase and they just showed up? Felt like a lovely AirBNB, not a home.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Exactly this. WTF are these (probably single/divorced) nasty people on this thread saying he’s gay going on abt? god just bc your marriage is a failure or you couldn’t get someone to settle for your ass doesn’t mean everyone is secretly unhappy.
And not he show...to all the haters saying it’s all the same.....uh yea. that’s the point duh. people are hiring SHEA for the MCGEE look. That’s what the Fing want. How did you not pick up on that? You might think it’s all the same but that’s literally what people are requesting bc they LIKE IT.
Stop hating this woman for being more successful than you are.
Let’s take the temperature down a notch. It’s a show about decorating.
Um stop calling her husband gay and then we’ll talk
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Exactly this. WTF are these (probably single/divorced) nasty people on this thread saying he’s gay going on abt? god just bc your marriage is a failure or you couldn’t get someone to settle for your ass doesn’t mean everyone is secretly unhappy.
And not he show...to all the haters saying it’s all the same.....uh yea. that’s the point duh. people are hiring SHEA for the MCGEE look. That’s what the Fing want. How did you not pick up on that? You might think it’s all the same but that’s literally what people are requesting bc they LIKE IT.
Stop hating this woman for being more successful than you are.
Let’s take the temperature down a notch. It’s a show about decorating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The lady who wanted a “tropic/Hawaiian” feel to the room and Shay’s reaction to the pillows the lady wanted to use. I felt so badly for the woman. The pillows were so much better than I thought they were going to be. I hope after the show the homeowner bought some inserts off Amazon and put them on her bed. They would look fine in that very plain room.
I thought the kitchen renovation in the 1908 house was really nice and reflected the home well.
I think they are going to get divorced. There was so much tension and she seems obviously annoyed by him and his inappropriate comments.
She could have used the pillows. They were pretty - and worst case scenario she could have layered them in. I did like the 1908 kitchen - but there white was appropriate. Every time she paints a cedar ceiling, the heart of a millworker dies.
That’s just staging. On all these shows, the designers stage the homes (usually with much of their own brand’s furniture/decor) for the reveal. Once the cameras are gone, they move it all out and the family moves their stuff in. In some cases, they purchase pieces from the designer to stay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's so white, but they are Mormons in Utah...
Also, there are lots of closeted gay men in that world and might her husband be one of them?
My first thought was the husband is gay.
I concur. My kids even said that, they're tweens.
I found the basketballers 22K SF mansion episode so odd. They showed a basketball court a bedroom and a "great room" and that was it. The interjection of their children is super inappropriate and those segments are awkward and boring. I found it crazy that the family seemed happy to move into a 100% done detailed home....didnt they have any personal art or mementos? Like, she styled each bookcase and they just showed up? Felt like a lovely AirBNB, not a home.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Exactly this. WTF are these (probably single/divorced) nasty people on this thread saying he’s gay going on abt? god just bc your marriage is a failure or you couldn’t get someone to settle for your ass doesn’t mean everyone is secretly unhappy.
And not he show...to all the haters saying it’s all the same.....uh yea. that’s the point duh. people are hiring SHEA for the MCGEE look. That’s what the Fing want. How did you not pick up on that? You might think it’s all the same but that’s literally what people are requesting bc they LIKE IT.
Stop hating this woman for being more successful than you are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Exactly this. WTF are these (probably single/divorced) nasty people on this thread saying he’s gay going on abt? god just bc your marriage is a failure or you couldn’t get someone to settle for your ass doesn’t mean everyone is secretly unhappy.
And not he show...to all the haters saying it’s all the same.....uh yea. that’s the point duh. people are hiring SHEA for the MCGEE look. That’s what the Fing want. How did you not pick up on that? You might think it’s all the same but that’s literally what people are requesting bc they LIKE IT.
Stop hating this woman for being more successful than you are.
Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.
Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.
You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.
No. You don’t get it.
When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.
When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.
At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's so white, but they are Mormons in Utah...
Also, there are lots of closeted gay men in that world and might her husband be one of them?
My first thought was the husband is gay.