Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 11:52     Subject: Re:At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
jsteele wrote:This thread and its topic were covered by the Washington City Paper:

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/467681/critics-accuse-sboe-candidate-jacque-patterson-of-living-in-maryland/



That was a really evenhanded article.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 11:52     Subject: Re:At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
jsteele wrote:This thread and its topic were covered by the Washington City Paper:

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/467681/critics-accuse-sboe-candidate-jacque-patterson-of-living-in-maryland/



This guy can’t catch a break. First Mary Lord gets him kicked off the ballot four years ago due to fraudulent signatures on his nominating petitions. And now, his personal paperwork creates lots of ambiguity. Doesn’t take the homestead deduction on his DC house - and his family members (who he says he bought the PG house for) list his DC home on their donations to his own campaign!
jsteele
Post 10/21/2020 11:21     Subject: Re:At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
This thread and its topic were covered by the Washington City Paper:

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/467681/critics-accuse-sboe-candidate-jacque-patterson-of-living-in-maryland/

Anonymous
Post 10/20/2020 10:39     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Has anyone on this thread, or outside of the thread, reported this to the Board of Elections?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2020 09:15     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't this be easy for PI to figure out?


Probably better approach is just not to vote for him and tell all your friends and family not to vote for him. If he wants, he can run for school board in PG county where he lives.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 21:34     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
That looks slimy. He is sketchy.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 21:21     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't this be easy for PI to figure out?


Does it seems like anyone cares enough to pay a PI?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 21:19     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Wouldn't this be easy for PI to figure out?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 16:05     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Residence fraud of this kind re: schools — where the person actually does own a qualifying house in the city — is nearly impossible to prove. Of course he has all the required paperwork. And it’s not like he’s renting it out to randoms, it’s his family, and he may not even be charging them rent. If investigators show up at the door, his sister will say “of course they live here; they’ll be back this evening!”
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 13:06     Subject: Re:At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Well there is seemingly plenty of evidence suggesting that he lives in MD (MD+PG tax records, claiming homestead in MD, not claiming homestead in DC, based on donation records and candidates own admission, supposedly 7 people residing in 3 bedroom DC domicile while 3600sq foot house sits unused 15mi away) and candidate has provided no evidence of residency in DC.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2020 12:59     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:Has there been any news coverage about this - or does this race not rise to the level of the scrutiny of local press?


So was this - as Trump Jr would say - a nothingburger? Or is Jacque Patterson committing residency fraud to send his kids to DC schools while living in PG?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2020 13:09     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Has there been any news coverage about this - or does this race not rise to the level of the scrutiny of local press?
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2020 22:26     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Claiming the Homestead Deduction in MD is genuinely tax fraud if he's not living there, but that could have been done automatically at the time of purchase by mistake because he didn't own another home *in MD.* If he contacts them and pays the arrears, it's not that big a deal. Remember that to be criminal, tax fraud has to be intended.


Look, this is the bottom-line: The MD records show he's taking the Homestead Deduction in Maryland. If that's his primary residency, that's fine, but that means he's lying about his DC residency. If he's not lying about his DC residency, he's in legal jeopardy for illegally taking the MD Homestead Deduction.


Serious creep. Definitely had a future as a DC pol.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2020 15:53     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here. I get that there can be problems with taxes. I bought an investment property in DC, realized a couple months in that it was listed with homestead deduction (the prior owners did live in it), and contacted OTR. It took them several months to fix it. If I ran for office it might look like I claimed homestead deductions on two different DC properties for a while.

But I'd be able to show that I fixed it before a tax bill ever came. I want my elected officials to be *more* detail-oriented than I am, not less.

The narrative that is being presented is that he has not claimed the homestead deduction on his DC property from the time he purchased his property in MD.
So he had many years of claiming it - than filed to change it with DC by accident?

I don't get how you accidently file that that form.


Or not realize for many years that you are getting a deduction you shouldn't be...and not getting the deduction you want. Unless you want the deduction on the higher taxed property....which seems like is...tax fraud?


The claim from the supporter in this forum is that he bought the house pre-DC Homestead Deduction and forgot to ever apply for it. That doesn't seem... crazy. Especially for a house that's not worth that much (and probably taxed at a rate that incredibly undervalues it because he's owned it so long).

Claiming the Homestead Deduction in MD is genuinely tax fraud if he's not living there, but that could have been done automatically at the time of purchase by mistake because he didn't own another home *in MD.* If he contacts them and pays the arrears, it's not that big a deal. Remember that to be criminal, tax fraud has to be intended.


There's been a homestead deduction since at least 1977, though, so that seems unlikely. https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/laws/docs/2-45.pdf Maybe the house was inherited, maybe they just didn't notice, anything is possible. But it shows a level of inattention that, combined with the ANC and OCF stuff, to me is disqualifying. This sounds like a guy who needs to work his own stuff out, not take on additional leadership roles.


Actually the 1977 law doesn't look like it distinguishes between owner-occupied and not, just if the property is residential. But by 1980 there was a difference https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/laws/docs/3-37.pdf

It could be a mistake. But when deciding who to vote for, I take both their accidental and intentional actions into consideration.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2020 15:48     Subject: At Large State Board of Education candidate is Maryland resident? Is that allowed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here. I get that there can be problems with taxes. I bought an investment property in DC, realized a couple months in that it was listed with homestead deduction (the prior owners did live in it), and contacted OTR. It took them several months to fix it. If I ran for office it might look like I claimed homestead deductions on two different DC properties for a while.

But I'd be able to show that I fixed it before a tax bill ever came. I want my elected officials to be *more* detail-oriented than I am, not less.

The narrative that is being presented is that he has not claimed the homestead deduction on his DC property from the time he purchased his property in MD.
So he had many years of claiming it - than filed to change it with DC by accident?

I don't get how you accidently file that that form.


Or not realize for many years that you are getting a deduction you shouldn't be...and not getting the deduction you want. Unless you want the deduction on the higher taxed property....which seems like is...tax fraud?


The claim from the supporter in this forum is that he bought the house pre-DC Homestead Deduction and forgot to ever apply for it. That doesn't seem... crazy. Especially for a house that's not worth that much (and probably taxed at a rate that incredibly undervalues it because he's owned it so long).

Claiming the Homestead Deduction in MD is genuinely tax fraud if he's not living there, but that could have been done automatically at the time of purchase by mistake because he didn't own another home *in MD.* If he contacts them and pays the arrears, it's not that big a deal. Remember that to be criminal, tax fraud has to be intended.


There's been a homestead deduction since at least 1977, though, so that seems unlikely. https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/laws/docs/2-45.pdf Maybe the house was inherited, maybe they just didn't notice, anything is possible. But it shows a level of inattention that, combined with the ANC and OCF stuff, to me is disqualifying. This sounds like a guy who needs to work his own stuff out, not take on additional leadership roles.