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Anonymous wrote:No one can make you feel ashamed. If you feel ashamed, it's because you know you're being stingy and stiffing people who because of the system, have to rely on your generosity for their income. The way not to feel shamed? Pay them what you know to be fair. Then you'll sleep soundly at night.

In current use being 'shamed' doesn't mean 'feeling ashamed'. Sl*t-shaming, fat-shaming etc doesn't necessarily mean that the object feels bad and ashamed, knowing what a fat sl*t she is. You get that, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

No one can make you feel ashamed. If you feel ashamed, it's because you know you're being stingy and stiffing people who because of the system, have to rely on your generosity for their income. The way not to feel shamed? Pay them what you know to be fair. Then you'll sleep soundly at night.

Wrong. What kind of circular BS is this? And how many times have people said to pay more upfront? This entitlement to other people’s money is bizarre.

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These people can get a higher paying job if they don't like the pay for waiting tables.

“These” people may be working multiple jobs to piece together life around child or elder care. Those people may not have had the benefit of higher education, or shocker are currently enrolled in a program to further their life, working when not in class. Stuff your classism and cook at home or bus your own table.

We are doing that right now and intend to keep doing it once the pandemic ends so stuff your entitlement.

Anonymous wrote:People Are getting frustrated about the tipping rate because they are already get ripped off by inflated prices on basically everything, especially around here. Example the average restaurant markup on pasta is 800% and I am watching these restaurants continue to jack up their prices on a simple dish while paying their employees crap. Why is it my responsibility to make up for a bad restaurant owner. I’m not paying more than 20% tip period. Id rather just stop going to said restaurant.

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Anonymous wrote:People like OP and others who despise tipping are truly a part of the entitled class, longing for the days of a small aristocracy and large poverty stricken mass. Let them eat cake, eh?

Anti-tippers feel that they are entitled for low wage workers to go above and beyond for you because it’s “their job” , “their place in life”, that “they chose”... probably want to make America great and bring back slavery too... why pay them anything at all eh?

People should really spend an hour picking your personalized grocery list, haul your 67 hand picked grocery items30 minutes to your house, for 5 dollars, along with ensuring they are carefully transported to your home...with no tip?

Ok.

Slavery’s the way to go for you!

Pretty simple. If you make the choice to support a business that you know does not pay a living wage, AND you don’t tip, you are capitalizing on slavery/ low wage worker exploitation.

I bet if you were paid what you were really worth...or testily produced... it’d be TREMENDOUSLY lower than this society has inflated your degree and social status to be worth.

OP here. Nice tangent, but has nothing to do with how I actually think. I think servers should be paid reasonable salary but their employers.

But of course it is more logical to assume that if I want to tip 15% instead in 20% then I'm practically pro-slavery.

Anonymous wrote:No one can make you feel ashamed. If you feel ashamed, it's because you know you're being stingy and stiffing people who because of the system, have to rely on your generosity for their income. The way not to feel shamed? Pay them what you know to be fair. Then you'll sleep soundly at night.

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Anonymous wrote:With service jobs, who are caring for you and your With service jobs, who are caring for you and your needs.

Yes, they care for me and my needs. And that is why I'm buying coffee with 90% margin, wine with 75% margin, plate of pasta for $18-22, have my hair colored for $250, get a massage for $80-90 per 60 mins.

Interesting that you pay so much for hair color, and hit a massage envy for bodywork. 80-90$ a massage is way below DC rates unless that’s entirely under the table/cash basis.

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Anonymous wrote:With service jobs, who are caring for you and your With service jobs, who are caring for you and your needs.

Yes, they care for me and my needs. And that is why I'm buying coffee with 90% margin, wine with 75% margin, plate of pasta for $18-22, have my hair colored for $250, get a massage for $80-90 per 60 mins.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

No one can make you feel ashamed. If you feel ashamed, it's because you know you're being stingy and stiffing people who because of the system, have to rely on your generosity for their income. The way not to feel shamed? Pay them what you know to be fair. Then you'll sleep soundly at night.

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Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.

Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!

To you people it's a ridiculous tipping culture issue, to her it's how she makes a living. I do get that none of you care about that. It takes skill and intelligence and she loves what she does.

If your daughter had skill and intelligence, she'd be able to make an honest living without manipulating people into handing over more money in the form of "voluntary tips" after they already paid for a service.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:With service jobs, who are caring for you and your With service jobs, who are caring for you and your needs.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the service workers appreciate learning how little a shit those Zooming away at their same jobs throughout this pandemic give for them.

I think they just don't understand the fact that restaurant servers are paid so little hourly and taxed on their sales. I do not understand why folks who don't like tipping choose to patronize full service restaurants. It's baffling.

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These people can get a higher paying job if they don't like the pay for waiting tables.

“These” people may be working multiple jobs to piece together life around child or elder care. Those people may not have had the benefit of higher education, or shocker are currently enrolled in a program to further their life, working when not in class. Stuff your classism and cook at home or bus your own table.

We are doing that right now and intend to keep doing it once the pandemic ends so stuff your entitlement.