Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.
Anonymous wrote:Np here, and I'm shocked at these denials.
Our child got in on appeal with a WISC of 129 that was taken in-person in June. Child is a rising 4th grader and was principal placed in the third grade LLIV and got mostly 4s. GBRS was 4Cs. In Marshall pyramid.
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I didn't even bother with AAP and had my kid skip 2 grades in the 3rd grade. Better course of action than messing with all these non-sense associated with AAP.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
I think there is some truth here. I’m in a unique situation where I have two children of different races. My white child had an easier time getting in with lower qualifications than my other child who I needed an appeal last year.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It really does seem like the GBRS carries the most weight for better or worse. Those with high WISCs need to figure out why the 3 people that did their child’s GBRS didn’t give them a higher rating (and hopefully it will be different next year). Are they flagged for Level 2 math and language arts? Are they in top reading and math groups?
It's not really a collaborative effort between 3 people. At some schools, the classroom teacher sets the score, and the rest of the committee members go along with it. At others, the AART overrides the classroom teacher. At some schools, the classroom teacher is the only one who even knows the kid. Also, some of these kids are in the top groups in everything, but are still getting lower GBRS scores.
My kids are older, but my DS was skipped ahead a grade in math, so he had a different teacher for math. He also had Level II pull outs with the reading specialist. His classroom teacher only saw him once/week for the highest reading group and never for math. Yet, neither my DS' math teacher nor the reading specialist were on the GBRS committee. Instead, the classroom teacher, who didn't like him, was the only person there who knew him, and the classroom teacher gave him a lower score. It was for some of the same reasons people have posted here. Kid wasn't inclined to do coloring sheets or word searches, which are 100% busywork. Teacher also indicated that she found the logistics of having him skipped ahead in math annoying to deal with.
My kid got in first round with very high test scores and with the application reflecting that he was taking 3rd grade AAP math in 2nd. Still, there's no magical reason as to why some highly gifted kids are given lower GBRS. Frequently, the teacher just doesn't like the kid and the kid isn't compliant with pure busywork. My kid also wins some sort of award for having actual, bonafide negative comments in his GBRS form, even though teachers are not technically allowed to do that.
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I also tend to think that behavior factors into the teacher evaluations and that parents often wayyy over estimate how quiet thoughtful helpful kind independent their child really is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
Anonymous wrote:It really does seem like the GBRS carries the most weight for better or worse. Those with high WISCs need to figure out why the 3 people that did their child’s GBRS didn’t give them a higher rating (and hopefully it will be different next year). Are they flagged for Level 2 math and language arts? Are they in top reading and math groups?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not get in despite having mildly gifted WISC, 140+. My kid is in 99.6% but this is somehow not good enough for FCPS.
I have a tangebile test score along with other documentation to prove he is eligible. Yet all I received from the school is a generic unqualified letter.
Also why are we providing all those documents explaining every detail providing documents when we get nothing from FCPS.
At least FCPS should show the decency explaining why my kid is not accepted.
It really seems like a colossal screw up this year. I have never seen so many high wisc rejections for appeals. Appeal process is when they usually fix their mistakes.
I have only been reading this board for three AAP cycles and this happens every year. And someone makes the same comment every year.