Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:41     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley Count, WV -- about a 1-hour drive from MoCo -- will be reopening for 5-day in-person instruction for children that want it. DL for those who dont':

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/tri_state/west_virginia/berkeley-county-schools-seeks-input-on-re-entry-plan/article_52640646-4f4d-571a-9afa-f9545f218bde.html

Most interesting is this:

"Approximately half of the district’s 3,000 employees have responded to a survey asking for their comments, and 78 percent of the respondents have indicated a willingness to return to school, he said"

So 78 percent of staff there are willing to go back to school, compared to only 25% of MCPS staff.


Wow, that’s interesting.

Why such a difference, I wonder. Why are teachers more willing to go back to workin WV versus here in MCPS?

Does WV also have a female, Democrat governor?


Teacher pay in West Virginia was the fourth lowest in the US, in 2018, when the West Virginia teachers struck.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:39     Subject: We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP— we cannot pretend that a pandemic doesn’t exist. Denial will not serve us well.


Did the OP deny there was a pandemic. Isn’t there one all over the world? What other country is considering ONLY distance learning?

None. Zilch. Nada


All the other countries had a national government that took control and governed. They established national guidelines for pandemic response and got their nations under control.

In the US, we had a federal government that abdicated any type of governing responsibility, neglected any response, and left the individual states to come up with their own responses. Some did better than others. Some delayed their responses. Even many of the states that did well initially relapsed when they reopened too quickly or when the population from hot spots started to flee and spread the disease. With no national plan in place, the virus spread is waxing and waning in areas that are loosening up restrictions because the people that are not being careful migrate around. The irresponsible people don't observe any quarantine regulations, don't wear masks and don't socially distance. They will continue to spread the disease and transmit the infections.

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:37     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley Count, WV -- about a 1-hour drive from MoCo -- will be reopening for 5-day in-person instruction for children that want it. DL for those who dont':

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/tri_state/west_virginia/berkeley-county-schools-seeks-input-on-re-entry-plan/article_52640646-4f4d-571a-9afa-f9545f218bde.html

Most interesting is this:

"Approximately half of the district’s 3,000 employees have responded to a survey asking for their comments, and 78 percent of the respondents have indicated a willingness to return to school, he said"

So 78 percent of staff there are willing to go back to school, compared to only 25% of MCPS staff.


Not all the relevant what they do out in the middle of nowhere since it's not exactly comparable.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:27     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley Count, WV -- about a 1-hour drive from MoCo -- will be reopening for 5-day in-person instruction for children that want it. DL for those who dont':

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/tri_state/west_virginia/berkeley-county-schools-seeks-input-on-re-entry-plan/article_52640646-4f4d-571a-9afa-f9545f218bde.html

Most interesting is this:

"Approximately half of the district’s 3,000 employees have responded to a survey asking for their comments, and 78 percent of the respondents have indicated a willingness to return to school, he said"

So 78 percent of staff there are willing to go back to school, compared to only 25% of MCPS staff.


Wow, that’s interesting.

Why such a difference, I wonder. Why are teachers more willing to go back to workin WV versus here in MCPS?

Does WV also have a female, Democrat governor?


I'm really not sure. My theories are:
- Maybe they don't have a teachers union, and in MoCo the union "encouraged" teachers to answer a certain way by sowing fear about how risky it will be.
- The COVID rates are lower in WV, so people aren't as fearful if they didn't know anyone who got it.
- Maybe they did not do real (live) DL last spring in WV -- just paper work packets -- so teachers were more eager to see their students. There's a lot more poverty and mountains in WV compared to MoCo, so it may have been difficult to assume kids there have internet access at home, and access to a computer also.

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:23     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


Like in Arizona, for example, which has a population density of 45 people per square mile.

No, wait...


China is 400 per square mile. How is it not surging all over their entire country. Hmmmmm


We have no idea what is going on in China. No clue.

They did open schools in some areas, but then had to close them back down soon after.

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:22     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley Count, WV -- about a 1-hour drive from MoCo -- will be reopening for 5-day in-person instruction for children that want it. DL for those who dont':

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/tri_state/west_virginia/berkeley-county-schools-seeks-input-on-re-entry-plan/article_52640646-4f4d-571a-9afa-f9545f218bde.html

Most interesting is this:

"Approximately half of the district’s 3,000 employees have responded to a survey asking for their comments, and 78 percent of the respondents have indicated a willingness to return to school, he said"

So 78 percent of staff there are willing to go back to school, compared to only 25% of MCPS staff.


Wow, that’s interesting.

Why such a difference, I wonder. Why are teachers more willing to go back to workin WV versus here in MCPS?

Does WV also have a female, Democrat governor?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 14:01     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Berkeley Count, WV -- about a 1-hour drive from MoCo -- will be reopening for 5-day in-person instruction for children that want it. DL for those who dont':

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/tri_state/west_virginia/berkeley-county-schools-seeks-input-on-re-entry-plan/article_52640646-4f4d-571a-9afa-f9545f218bde.html

Most interesting is this:

"Approximately half of the district’s 3,000 employees have responded to a survey asking for their comments, and 78 percent of the respondents have indicated a willingness to return to school, he said"

So 78 percent of staff there are willing to go back to school, compared to only 25% of MCPS staff.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 13:56     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

There's nothing inherent to being Latino that makes you more vulnerable to covid. It's the factors that are associated with being Latino in the US, including low income, in-person job, lack of access to health care, etc. Which also apply to the poor people in Maine who are white.


This is where the concept of intersectionality will come in very useful. Poverty is a risk factor, but so is being Latino, because we know from extensive research that the medical system suffers from problems with systemic racism in which minorities receive worse care and have their needs taken less seriously.

So, yes, poor white Mainers suffer from some of the same challenges as poor Latino Arizonans, but poor Latino Arizonans suffer additional challenges on top of those caused by poverty.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 13:33     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


Like in Arizona, for example, which has a population density of 45 people per square mile.

No, wait...


You’re right. Let’s look at the demographic differences between Maine and Arizona.

We have been told that Covid affects Blacks and Latinos at a higher rate.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/01/885923635/why-latinos-are-hospitalized-from-covid-19-four-times-the-rate-of-white-american

Arizona is about 30% Latino, whereas Maine is about 1% Latino.
Arizona is 3.5% Black and Maine is 1.7% Black.

That could definitely contribute to the difference in stats.




PP, you can not be this dumb...

The virus is picking ANYONE’s mouth, nose, or eyes to enter. It doesn’t migrate to black and brown people. Good Lord. Wearing a mask slows this down FOR EVERYONE. There is some evidence that minorities have some more side effects of the virus. That is all. And it has more to do with poverty level and health care options and how it affects their overall health (more asthmatics, diabetics, etc...)
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 13:28     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


Like in Arizona, for example, which has a population density of 45 people per square mile.

No, wait...


China is 400 per square mile. How is it not surging all over their entire country. Hmmmmm
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 13:15     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


You can, however, give Janet Mills credit for being a governor who's (a) a Democrat and (b) a woman. Trump can't stand that. The only thing he can't stand more is elected leaders who are (a) Democrats (b) women and (c) Black.


What does that even mean?

Yay, she’s a woman so she must be doing a good job? No, sorry.



It means: yes, she's a woman, so Trump likes to target her in his tweets.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 13:14     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:

You’re right. Let’s look at the demographic differences between Maine and Arizona.

We have been told that Covid affects Blacks and Latinos at a higher rate.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/01/885923635/why-latinos-are-hospitalized-from-covid-19-four-times-the-rate-of-white-american

Arizona is about 30% Latino, whereas Maine is about 1% Latino.
Arizona is 3.5% Black and Maine is 1.7% Black.

That could definitely contribute to the difference in stats.


There's nothing inherent to being Latino that makes you more vulnerable to covid. It's the factors that are associated with being Latino in the US, including low income, in-person job, lack of access to health care, etc. Which also apply to the poor people in Maine who are white.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 12:56     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


Like in Arizona, for example, which has a population density of 45 people per square mile.

No, wait...


No one lives in the wide desert; Phoenix is 3000 ppl/sq mile.

Maine is actually widely spread out, with houses dotting the countryside and small villages. AZ is just a few mega cities huddling for A/C and water


DP

Exactly, there are many other factors that need to be considered. That’s why it’s useless to try and blame Trump and why it’s useless to give Janet Mills superhero status.

Anyone can make any set of stats support or contradict whatever political position they choose to take.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 12:54     Subject: Re:We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did Maine do right, so much that Trump singled them out for it?



Have a governor who's a woman.




Sorry, but it's true.
- Michigan resident


Nope. Just like you can’t blame Trump for Covid, you can’t give Janet Mills credit for Maine’s situation.

Maine is 35K square miles and has a population of 1.3 million. Maine has a population density of 41 people per square mile.

Maryland has a population density of 594 people per square mile. And Maryland is way more diverse.

Population density makes a huge difference in the spread of Covid.


Like in Arizona, for example, which has a population density of 45 people per square mile.

No, wait...


You’re right. Let’s look at the demographic differences between Maine and Arizona.

We have been told that Covid affects Blacks and Latinos at a higher rate.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/01/885923635/why-latinos-are-hospitalized-from-covid-19-four-times-the-rate-of-white-american

Arizona is about 30% Latino, whereas Maine is about 1% Latino.
Arizona is 3.5% Black and Maine is 1.7% Black.

That could definitely contribute to the difference in stats.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2020 12:51     Subject: We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

Anonymous wrote:Really Op?
Every where like where??


Yeah, OP, where? Name a large metropolitan area.