Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 13:20     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as "creating a social pod" ... here is the thing about "affluent women". We don't want to be bothered. We will pay for help but we don't want to coordinate with anybody, compromise on anything, or have anybody else making decision for us or our child.

Plus we love our children in dribs and drabs but don't want them underfoot. Even when we SAH, we have nanny's, swim team, tennis lessons, golf lessons, the club to keep them out of our hair.

We very much have the "we pay our taxes" attitude and want the government to do "the rest"... and supplement with tutors.

I could pay an out of work teacher but I would have to pay for 3, that is more expensive than a Big 3. Oh wait, my kids are at a Big 3, I pay them a ton, they can figure this out.


If you can't pluralize the word nanny I have a hard time believing you are an affluent woman.


^^^ See why we can't create a pod.

Could you imagine if I volunteered to do the English class for her kid. I'd hit her over the head with a Cab... very dry, but a California Cab, nothing too good.


You're a moron.


Okay Karen


DP. I think it is obvious that this is a sarcastic and fake post. No parent would say they love their child in “dribs and drabs”.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 13:12     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as "creating a social pod" ... here is the thing about "affluent women". We don't want to be bothered. We will pay for help but we don't want to coordinate with anybody, compromise on anything, or have anybody else making decision for us or our child.

Plus we love our children in dribs and drabs but don't want them underfoot. Even when we SAH, we have nanny's, swim team, tennis lessons, golf lessons, the club to keep them out of our hair.

We very much have the "we pay our taxes" attitude and want the government to do "the rest"... and supplement with tutors.

I could pay an out of work teacher but I would have to pay for 3, that is more expensive than a Big 3. Oh wait, my kids are at a Big 3, I pay them a ton, they can figure this out.


If you can't pluralize the word nanny I have a hard time believing you are an affluent woman.


+1. Pp lost me there.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2020 13:02     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood why wealthy people send their kids to public schools when they can afford private. They’ll spend big bucks on everything else but not education. To me, that’s backwards. I’m DCUM poor and I send my kid to private school. Aside from his health, nothing is more important than an education. You can’t go back and do it again. I won’t care too much if he has to do DL because his school did a great job last year especially last minute. They are paying teachers to come back a week early so they can have two weeks to prepare for DL since it will probably happen sometime this fall. I’m a public school teacher and they would never pay us a dime to do anything. They try to guilt us into take DL courses this summer for free. You get what you pay for. I think people are seeing this now.


My kids are thriving in AAP. They have a solid peer group. Our school has a great science Olympiad team and chess club.

DH and I are both Ivy League educated and value education very much. We have a high income and can afford private school tuition. We prefer to save money for college, grad school, weddings and down payments.

We are always surprised at how many people with relatively low incomes struggle to pay tuition for private. Then their kids don’t even end up at a very good college.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 19:09     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omg. My kids are plenty privileged but I'm still not equipped to administer their checkups or fill their cavities or teach them math. If school is important to any kids, then it's important to all kids. Some kids have a bigger gap to bridge or more needs that the school system can address, but that's not the same thing. Couple that with the facts that (1) the expectation that society stop until the time there's a "vaccine" is unrealistic and (2) kids are not as at-risk or significant vectors for this based on everything we know -- that's why my kids "need" to be in school.


For young kids k-5 you can do the math, you don't want to. Once they hit algebra its harder but thankfully one parent in our family can do advanced math. Your kids don't need to be in school as they can DL or hire a tutor. You want them in school.


DP. I taught both my kids to read at 4 and yes, grade school math isn't hard. However, they learned to write at school and they learned so much more.

School is not just the three Rs. No matter your SES.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 19:05     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:Omg. My kids are plenty privileged but I'm still not equipped to administer their checkups or fill their cavities or teach them math. If school is important to any kids, then it's important to all kids. Some kids have a bigger gap to bridge or more needs that the school system can address, but that's not the same thing. Couple that with the facts that (1) the expectation that society stop until the time there's a "vaccine" is unrealistic and (2) kids are not as at-risk or significant vectors for this based on everything we know -- that's why my kids "need" to be in school.


For young kids k-5 you can do the math, you don't want to. Once they hit algebra its harder but thankfully one parent in our family can do advanced math. Your kids don't need to be in school as they can DL or hire a tutor. You want them in school.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 18:59     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Omg. My kids are plenty privileged but I'm still not equipped to administer their checkups or fill their cavities or teach them math. If school is important to any kids, then it's important to all kids. Some kids have a bigger gap to bridge or more needs that the school system can address, but that's not the same thing. Couple that with the facts that (1) the expectation that society stop until the time there's a "vaccine" is unrealistic and (2) kids are not as at-risk or significant vectors for this based on everything we know -- that's why my kids "need" to be in school.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:55     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as "creating a social pod" ... here is the thing about "affluent women". We don't want to be bothered. We will pay for help but we don't want to coordinate with anybody, compromise on anything, or have anybody else making decision for us or our child.

Plus we love our children in dribs and drabs but don't want them underfoot. Even when we SAH, we have nanny's, swim team, tennis lessons, golf lessons, the club to keep them out of our hair.

We very much have the "we pay our taxes" attitude and want the government to do "the rest"... and supplement with tutors.

I could pay an out of work teacher but I would have to pay for 3, that is more expensive than a Big 3. Oh wait, my kids are at a Big 3, I pay them a ton, they can figure this out.


If you can't pluralize the word nanny I have a hard time believing you are an affluent woman.


^^^ See why we can't create a pod.

Could you imagine if I volunteered to do the English class for her kid. I'd hit her over the head with a Cab... very dry, but a California Cab, nothing too good.


You're a moron.


Okay Karen
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:55     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Are you seriously asking why kids need a formal education, OP?

Let me guess, you are a teacher?




I am not a teacher and I am not "seriously asking why kids need a formal education." I am asking why it is such a hardship for UMC kids to attend school in person this fall in the middle of a contagious pandemic that is killing thousands of people daily, when those children have many options and resources to help mitigate the loss of a formal schooling program. I am realizing that this is not about hardship for the kids. The kids will be fine, some maybe even happier. It is about the incredibly selfish parents who don't want the hassle of putting together an alternative plan.


Shouldn’t you be glad that UMC parents want this, whatever the reason?
It’s clearly better for a lot of kids to go to school, and these are typically the parents who make things happen.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:50     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Do they NEED to be in school? No.

Are they in much better shape, intellectually and emotionally, when they are in school? Yes.

We are a very ordinary family ... no significant learning needs, both parents worked from home during the shutdown. The kids handled it OK. However, their situations ranged from almost no work for one child to complete, uncoordinated chaos for another child ... the teachers just piled busywork on top of busywork. It SUCKED. They all seemed pretty depressed and unmotivated.

I've always supported teachers, but their willingness to just give up and NOT TEACH right now is working my nerves. They don't want to go back ... but they're also not promising they will do any better than they did from March to June.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:46     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:

Are you seriously asking why kids need a formal education, OP?

Let me guess, you are a teacher?




I am not a teacher and I am not "seriously asking why kids need a formal education." I am asking why it is such a hardship for UMC kids to attend school in person this fall in the middle of a contagious pandemic that is killing thousands of people daily, when those children have many options and resources to help mitigate the loss of a formal schooling program. I am realizing that this is not about hardship for the kids. The kids will be fine, some maybe even happier. It is about the incredibly selfish parents who don't want the hassle of putting together an alternative plan.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:43     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood why wealthy people send their kids to public schools when they can afford private. They’ll spend big bucks on everything else but not education. To me, that’s backwards. I’m DCUM poor and I send my kid to private school. Aside from his health, nothing is more important than an education. You can’t go back and do it again. I won’t care too much if he has to do DL because his school did a great job last year especially last minute. They are paying teachers to come back a week early so they can have two weeks to prepare for DL since it will probably happen sometime this fall. I’m a public school teacher and they would never pay us a dime to do anything. They try to guilt us into take DL courses this summer for free. You get what you pay for. I think people are seeing this now.


Because while private schools can do some things better than public schools, there are some things that they cannot replicate.

I would never send my kids to private school. My brother is sending his kids to private school and is realizing the problem, but feels locked in.


Like what?


Upthread a poster said that school teaches children that they are not the center of the universe. Public schools teach that. Private schools teach the opposite.

Some people describe it as polish, as a kind of je ne sais quoi. It's a definite attitude that private school kids (many, not all) have that some parents want, some parents don't.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:42     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood why wealthy people send their kids to public schools when they can afford private. They’ll spend big bucks on everything else but not education. To me, that’s backwards. I’m DCUM poor and I send my kid to private school. Aside from his health, nothing is more important than an education. You can’t go back and do it again. I won’t care too much if he has to do DL because his school did a great job last year especially last minute. They are paying teachers to come back a week early so they can have two weeks to prepare for DL since it will probably happen sometime this fall. I’m a public school teacher and they would never pay us a dime to do anything. They try to guilt us into take DL courses this summer for free. You get what you pay for. I think people are seeing this now.


Because while private schools can do some things better than public schools, there are some things that they cannot replicate.

I would never send my kids to private school. My brother is sending his kids to private school and is realizing the problem, but feels locked in.



Apparently public schools suck at DL. Why? It’s a lot easier to switch to DL with a school of 1000 students than a district with over 100,000. How long are you okay with your kids passing when they really don’t have to do much work at all?
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:40     Subject: Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"


Are you seriously asking why kids need a formal education, OP?

Let me guess, you are a teacher?


Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:38     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood why wealthy people send their kids to public schools when they can afford private. They’ll spend big bucks on everything else but not education. To me, that’s backwards. I’m DCUM poor and I send my kid to private school. Aside from his health, nothing is more important than an education. You can’t go back and do it again. I won’t care too much if he has to do DL because his school did a great job last year especially last minute. They are paying teachers to come back a week early so they can have two weeks to prepare for DL since it will probably happen sometime this fall. I’m a public school teacher and they would never pay us a dime to do anything. They try to guilt us into take DL courses this summer for free. You get what you pay for. I think people are seeing this now.


Because while private schools can do some things better than public schools, there are some things that they cannot replicate.

I would never send my kids to private school. My brother is sending his kids to private school and is realizing the problem, but feels locked in.


Like what?
My large public high school had a much stronger music program (full orchestra, award winning marching band) than any of the local private schools, which were much smaller in size. It also had more advanced and specialized science, math and language classes because it had enough students to fill these classes. Smaller local privates only offered those courses as independent studies. Some sports also lend themselves to larger public schools (e.g., football). The same for theatre--my large public school put on a full musical with a live pit orchestra every year. Most local privates weren't large enough to do this.

I'm sure there are private schools with those offerings, but many cannot replicate those offerings.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2020 11:23     Subject: Re:Why do your affluent kids "need to be in school?"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood why wealthy people send their kids to public schools when they can afford private. They’ll spend big bucks on everything else but not education. To me, that’s backwards. I’m DCUM poor and I send my kid to private school. Aside from his health, nothing is more important than an education. You can’t go back and do it again. I won’t care too much if he has to do DL because his school did a great job last year especially last minute. They are paying teachers to come back a week early so they can have two weeks to prepare for DL since it will probably happen sometime this fall. I’m a public school teacher and they would never pay us a dime to do anything. They try to guilt us into take DL courses this summer for free. You get what you pay for. I think people are seeing this now.


Because while private schools can do some things better than public schools, there are some things that they cannot replicate.

I would never send my kids to private school. My brother is sending his kids to private school and is realizing the problem, but feels locked in.


Like what?