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Anonymous wrote:Many women don't understand how provocative their clothing is to men. My niece who is 29 and a NY U grad lives and works in San Francisco. She wore a dress to work. Her husband said he liked her dress but it was a hootchie mama dress and that she would not be taken seriously on the job if she wore those types of dresses to the workplace. Her husband (also 29 and NY U grad) said wearing the provocative dresses to work would limit her advancement. I happened to be visiting during the conversation.

But the question is what is considered a provocative dress? A sheath dress? JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:Many women don't understand how provocative their clothing is to men. My niece who is 29 and a NY U grad lives and works in San Francisco. She wore a dress to work. Her husband said he liked her dress but it was a hootchie mama dress and that she would not be taken seriously on the job if she wore those types of dresses to the workplace. Her husband (also 29 and NY U grad) said wearing the provocative dresses to work would limit her advancement. I happened to be visiting during the conversation.

This is exactly why some muslim women are required to cover up.

Anonymous wrote:I like dresses way more than pants. I wear a navy or black cap sleeved dress pretty much every day. In the winter, I usually add a corresponding blazer.

Anonymous wrote:Many women don't understand how provocative their clothing is to men. My niece who is 29 and a NY U grad lives and works in San Francisco. She wore a dress to work. Her husband said he liked her dress but it was a hootchie mama dress and that she would not be taken seriously on the job if she wore those types of dresses to the workplace. Her husband (also 29 and NY U grad) said wearing the provocative dresses to work would limit her advancement. I happened to be visiting during the conversation.

Anonymous wrote:Many women don't understand how provocative their clothing is to men. My niece who is 29 and a NY U grad lives and works in San Francisco. She wore a dress to work. Her husband said he liked her dress but it was a hootchie mama dress and that she would not be taken seriously on the job if she wore those types of dresses to the workplace. Her husband (also 29 and NY U grad) said wearing the provocative dresses to work would limit her advancement. I happened to be visiting during the conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:If AOC's dress is your standard for the idea of a sheath dress, sure. The sheath dresses I see are always more sexy.

I don't think it's fair to equate the dress codes for teens at school and women in the workplace. My choice to not "take advantage of my looks" in the workplace is a choice, and it's a rebellious one against the pressure felt that women in the workplace need to be eye candy.

Normally I would say "you do you," but you come across as exceptionally condescending and judgmental.

I feel like this may be the poster in the “why come to the beauty forum to troll people who like beauty“ thread who started calling me “aggressively stupid”. Same condescending, judgmental tone. Same general argument. I started ignoring her.

Either way, this is a fun conversation. We should continue!

My daughter was complaining to me today about the teen girls who talk about being “not like other girls” and put down my DD and her friends for being “basic” in a way that is unbelievably rude and anti-feminist. I think the no sheath dresses posted is just one of those all grown up.

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Anonymous wrote:If AOC's dress is your standard for the idea of a sheath dress, sure. The sheath dresses I see are always more sexy.

I don't think it's fair to equate the dress codes for teens at school and women in the workplace. My choice to not "take advantage of my looks" in the workplace is a choice, and it's a rebellious one against the pressure felt that women in the workplace need to be eye candy.

Normally I would say "you do you," but you come across as exceptionally condescending and judgmental.

I feel like this may be the poster in the “why come to the beauty forum to troll people who like beauty“ thread who started calling me “aggressively stupid”. Same condescending, judgmental tone. Same general argument. I started ignoring her.

Either way, this is a fun conversation. We should continue!

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Anonymous wrote:If AOC's dress is your standard for the idea of a sheath dress, sure. The sheath dresses I see are always more sexy.

I don't think it's fair to equate the dress codes for teens at school and women in the workplace. My choice to not "take advantage of my looks" in the workplace is a choice, and it's a rebellious one against the pressure felt that women in the workplace need to be eye candy.

Normally I would say "you do you," but you come across as exceptionally condescending and judgmental.

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Anonymous wrote:The dress Pelosi wears in a multitude of colors is fine for a woman her age, but I think would be too revealing for anyone younger. I don't need my work attire to show my curves in that way, even if they're flattering. My attractiveness should be out of the picture altogether in the workplace. That's why I believe in a 10 or 12 outfits wardrobe of pantsuits, skirtsuits, or matching jacket+dress suit. I'll take off my jacket for the quarterly happy hour, or we we have to move around tables for an event, but otherwise, I just make slight adaptations to men's dress code.
I do this out of feminism.

I feel like this is such a weird take. Pelosi’s outfit isn’t a problem because since she’s old, it’s inherently not sexy, but if she were young, it would be too sexy for work. Either an outfit isn’t work appropriate or it is. How easy it is to sexualize the person in it shouldn’t be a factor.

Here is AOC in a dress that is nearly identical to Pelosi's. Despite being fifty years younger than Pelosi, this dress doesn't appear revealing at all and that's mostly because there isn't really anything for it to hug. It looks different on Pelosi (in part because it's better tailored) because she has curves and presumably did when she was thirty as well. It's still the exact same dress cut. This is the same attitude we see in schools that apply the dress code disproportionally towards developed teens. We need to stop seeing clothes this way because it makes it impossible for women with some semblance of a body to find chic clothes that aren't considered by some to be NSFW.

This. I would like to wear clothes that don't make me look like a tablecloth but when I do, people (other women almost always) consider it too sexualized when it's basically the same thing they wear but with hips and boobs added (something I can't do anything about).

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Anonymous wrote:If AOC's dress is your standard for the idea of a sheath dress, sure. The sheath dresses I see are always more sexy.

I don't think it's fair to equate the dress codes for teens at school and women in the workplace. My choice to not "take advantage of my looks" in the workplace is a choice, and it's a rebellious one against the pressure felt that women in the workplace need to be eye candy.

I'm not sure what workplace you're a part of, but here in Washington the standard is definitely to be as boring and non-sexual as possible. Women who dress with personality are a rarity. You're not special because you think you're too good to pay attention to clothes.

I'm "here in Washington" too. I dress with personality, just not an overtly sexual one. But yes, I am special! For all the worky work things I do and valuable innovative things I say that men get to he-peat away or mansplain back to me!

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