Anonymous
05/17/2020 18:36
Subject: Re:How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anyone else get the feeling that most of the negative responses are by the same disaffected individual?
Anonymous
05/17/2020 17:46
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
So you think that recent college graduates should not join? Does that even make any sense?
If you are concerned with using technology as opposed to combat to solve problems then one would think that you would hope and pray that more college grads would join our military forces. The more solutions that we can develop, the more options that we have.
Wow, "solutions" to me does not mean better weapons, it means better diplomacy.
Words have little meaning if there's nothing to back them up.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 17:23
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
We use diplomacy as much as we can, but we can’t control who the other side sends to negotiate and what they demand. Google appeasement of Hitler if you are unsure why we need a military as a backup to diplomacy.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 17:11
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
So you think that recent college graduates should not join? Does that even make any sense?
If you are concerned with using technology as opposed to combat to solve problems then one would think that you would hope and pray that more college grads would join our military forces. The more solutions that we can develop, the more options that we have.
Wow, "solutions" to me does not mean better weapons, it means better diplomacy.
Yes, because its so simple. Why don't you run for president and try it? You think if people were reasonable we'd have the issues in the world we are having. You think if people were reasonable we'd have all the issues in the US we do?
Anonymous
05/17/2020 17:10
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
Perhaps take a trip to China.
I have been to china, have you?
This has nothing to do with my point that civilized people reconcile differences through negotiation not killing of each other's sons and daughters.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 17:07
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
So you think that recent college graduates should not join? Does that even make any sense?
If you are concerned with using technology as opposed to combat to solve problems then one would think that you would hope and pray that more college grads would join our military forces. The more solutions that we can develop, the more options that we have.
Wow, "solutions" to me does not mean better weapons, it means better diplomacy.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:32
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Understand there is a huge difference in quality of life and jobs if you are enlisted vs. officer so those saying they have degrees and officers are in a different situation than OP. OP, college first, then military.
This. I’d be fine with my kids joining after getting a four degree. I’m 42 and have a bunch of friends who did that, men and women. They were pilots, doctors, engineers, etc in the military and are now retiring after 20 years of service with excellent benefits. Those who are slightly older finished a few years ago and quickly got hired in the civilian world making great money.
Officers have the good benefits. Enlisted retirement pay is nothing like officers.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:31
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Understand there is a huge difference in quality of life and jobs if you are enlisted vs. officer so those saying they have degrees and officers are in a different situation than OP. OP, college first, then military.
This. I’d be fine with my kids joining after getting a four degree. I’m 42 and have a bunch of friends who did that, men and women. They were pilots, doctors, engineers, etc in the military and are now retiring after 20 years of service with excellent benefits. Those who are slightly older finished a few years ago and quickly got hired in the civilian world making great money.
What $ is great money?
I haven't asked to see pay stubs, but enough to put kids through private schools and full pay college, buy a home and nice cars in a well-heeled neighborhood, and have a spouse who works p/t or not at all. One of the guys works with my husband in the same position (senior level IT) and makes $250k.
My experience in my family is the same. My brother in law paid for exclusive private school in Milan Italy for his daughters while in the military. He paid full college pay at NYU for the daughters (he was peeved because they could have gone to Texas for very little money), has a spouse (My sister working only part time) and makes the good money listed above.
That makes no sense. Maybe if he was high ranking officer or spending everything they had or side job. That would be very hard active duty.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:29
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Understand there is a huge difference in quality of life and jobs if you are enlisted vs. officer so those saying they have degrees and officers are in a different situation than OP. OP, college first, then military.
This. I’d be fine with my kids joining after getting a four degree. I’m 42 and have a bunch of friends who did that, men and women. They were pilots, doctors, engineers, etc in the military and are now retiring after 20 years of service with excellent benefits. Those who are slightly older finished a few years ago and quickly got hired in the civilian world making great money.
What $ is great money?
I haven't asked to see pay stubs, but enough to put kids through private schools and full pay college, buy a home and nice cars in a well-heeled neighborhood, and have a spouse who works p/t or not at all. One of the guys works with my husband in the same position (senior level IT) and makes $250k.
They can do that as they got the right degree. But that is not the norm for many.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:26
Subject: Re:How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:The problem it seems to me is some people have little understanding that our military can be sent into war zones and killed. I recall one woman whose med school was paid by the military was ordered to go to Iraq and she said "woah" I didn't sign up for that!" And they said, actually you did. And she refused to go. And then they said, o.k., you owe us $700,000. We need people in our military, no question. But don't forget what you are there for.
She sounds entitled. She should pay it back.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:23
Subject: Re:How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem it seems to me is some people have little understanding that our military can be sent into war zones and killed. I recall one woman whose med school was paid by the military was ordered to go to Iraq and she said "woah" I didn't sign up for that!" And they said, actually you did. And she refused to go. And then they said, o.k., you owe us $700,000. We need people in our military, no question. But don't forget what you are there for.
If you join the military AFTER college and you have already paid for your college tuition then you would not have to pay the military back a thing. You would have to honor the commitment that you made to serve but nothing more than that.
A person that would join the military under the assumption that they are somehow too special to ever be sent into a war zone is going to learn the hard way that it doesn't work that way.
^ correct. You said it better than I did. But I sense some of the posters on here are ignoring that rather important detail about joining the military.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:20
Subject: Re:How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:The problem it seems to me is some people have little understanding that our military can be sent into war zones and killed. I recall one woman whose med school was paid by the military was ordered to go to Iraq and she said "woah" I didn't sign up for that!" And they said, actually you did. And she refused to go. And then they said, o.k., you owe us $700,000. We need people in our military, no question. But don't forget what you are there for.
If you join the military AFTER college and you have already paid for your college tuition then you would not have to pay the military back a thing. You would have to honor the commitment that you made to serve but nothing more than that.
A person that would join the military under the assumption that they are somehow too special to ever be sent into a war zone is going to learn the hard way that it doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:08
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Very proud
+100. God Bless the USA
Anonymous
05/17/2020 15:06
Subject: How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh another military bashing thread, how lovely.
Military is the weapon of the government. Bashing U.S. government. I have no desire to have my child invade, bomb, drone kill people in another country.
When I served I never can close to doing anything like that. Military bases are like small cities, they have nearly every career imaginable.
Head in the sand. WHY do all of those little cities exist? To support the "trigger pullers" (miitary jargon)
They exist so you and millions of other people can enjoy many freedoms that otherwise would have been destroyed by enemies of the US.
I prefer people with brains solve disagreements between countries, not people with guns.
Perhaps take a trip to China.
Anonymous
05/17/2020 14:58
Subject: Re:How would you feel if DS joined the military after college?
The problem it seems to me is some people have little understanding that our military can be sent into war zones and killed. I recall one woman whose med school was paid by the military was ordered to go to Iraq and she said "woah" I didn't sign up for that!" And they said, actually you did. And she refused to go. And then they said, o.k., you owe us $700,000. We need people in our military, no question. But don't forget what you are there for.