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Anonymous wrote:Do you give speeches in mask?

Yes, we do patient rounds on them every day.

Yeah, it’s actually fine hearing through them. I had a video conference with 5 different locations on Friday. Multiple people in those rooms were wearing masks and we had no problem hearing them.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

Then send them home. Tell them they can’t come back until they’re in a mask.

+1

For a global pandemic, you can enforce rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick people asserting that since nurses do something, then teachers should do the same. It’s a false equivalency. The job of a nurse is to provide care to sick or injured people. They are fully aware of what they’re signing up for when they decide to go to school to become a nurse. They are aware that they will be on the front lines in the event of a pandemic or whatever health issue people are facing. Same with EMTs/firefighters/police officers etc. They are first responders. It’s in the job description that they will be putting themselves in danger and they knowingly sign up for that.

In what world are teachers in the same category as the aforementioned? No one gets an education degree assuming they will have to teach germy children in a pandemic. Let’s keep it real here. No one would care this much or be this opinionated about how teachers do their job in a pandemic if they weren’t just upset that they lost their free childcare. That’s what this is about.

And with this post, I’m out. I’m not even a teacher but I’m so so done with these threads and the teacher bashing that goes on here. It’s gross and reveals how disgusting most of humanity is when people don’t have control over a situation and would prefer for others (who didn’t sign up for it), plus their own children, to put their health at risk so that they don’t have to be inconvenienced in any way.

Good luck, all. I hope you get some perspective one day. You sorely need it.

✌🏼

That’s fine. Why do teachers then expect a paycheck if they can’t perform their duties. I would rather school districts procure online curriculum designed to work for remote learning and hire personnel that are are capable of providing remote learning supplementation. If that means a current teacher loses her job because he/she doesn’t have sufficient child care to perform a full day’s worth of remote learning work, so be it. Especially now since teachers say remote learning is not their area of expertise (their teaching degree did not provide them this training) and if remote learning is the new norm, school districts need to hire personnel who have the expertise or can obtain the expertise over the summer, weekends, and evenings if they want to teach in this new reality and receive a paycheck. Currently, the teacher’s attitude is poor me, I still deserve a paycheck and it’s the school districts responsibility in training me etc. In the real world, employees have to adapt and take initiative to keep their jobs, why should teachers be any different.

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That’s fine. Why do teachers then expect a paycheck if they can’t perform their duties. I would rather school districts procure online curriculum designed to work for remote learning and hire personnel that are are capable of providing remote learning supplementation. If that means a current teacher loses her job because he/she doesn’t have sufficient child care to perform a full day’s worth of remote learning work, so be it. Especially now since teachers say remote learning is not their area of expertise (their teaching degree did not provide them this training) and if remote learning is the new norm, school districts need to hire personnel who have the expertise or can obtain the expertise over the summer, weekends, and evenings if they want to teach in this new reality and receive a paycheck. Currently, the teacher’s attitude is poor me, I still deserve a paycheck and it’s the school districts responsibility in training me etc. In the real world, employees have to adapt and take initiative to keep their jobs, why should teachers be any different.

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick people asserting that since nurses do something, then teachers should do the same. It’s a false equivalency. The job of a nurse is to provide care to sick or injured people. They are fully aware of what they’re signing up for when they decide to go to school to become a nurse. They are aware that they will be on the front lines in the event of a pandemic or whatever health issue people are facing. Same with EMTs/firefighters/police officers etc. They are first responders. It’s in the job description that they will be putting themselves in danger and they knowingly sign up for that.

In what world are teachers in the same category as the aforementioned? No one gets an education degree assuming they will have to teach germy children in a pandemic. Let’s keep it real here. No one would care this much or be this opinionated about how teachers do their job in a pandemic if they weren’t just upset that they lost their free childcare. That’s what this is about.

And with this post, I’m out. I’m not even a teacher but I’m so so done with these threads and the teacher bashing that goes on here. It’s gross and reveals how disgusting most of humanity is when people don’t have control over a situation and would prefer for others (who didn’t sign up for it), plus their own children, to put their health at risk so that they don’t have to be inconvenienced in any way.

Good luck, all. I hope you get some perspective one day. You sorely need it.

✌🏼

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

Then send them home. Tell them they can’t come back until they’re in a mask.

+1

For a global pandemic, you can enforce rules.

Look I try not to post on this board often because I know most people on here don’t know the reality of working in a school but PP is absolutely right about middle and high schoolers wearing masks. And who is going to send them home? Part of the reason there is a teacher shortage is administration and districts don’t enforce any behavior rules. They will not send every kid home who won’t wear a mask. They don’t even send kids home who bring weapons to school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

Then send them home. Tell them they can’t come back until they’re in a mask.

+1

For a global pandemic, you can enforce rules.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nurse married to a doctor and we've been working in the hospitals since this began. I work on a Covid unit and my husband works in the ER.
Most of our coworkers have kids as we do too. Many of us do have various health concerns.

We have worn masks religiously since this started. Sometimes we wear a N95 and more recently we wear surgical masks. We wear them non-stop for 12 hour shifts.

It's not fun (the masks are hot, it's a pain) but we've worn them each and every day for almost 2 months. Why can't teachers do this?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

That’s sad! I don’t want to see teachers out of a job. I love my child’s teacher. I think the fact that everyone wants teachers to go back to school is a positive thing, right? I feel like it’s the teachers that are refusing to return to work that bother parents.