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Anonymous wrote:Much easier as a legacy to get into Harvard than Columbia.

This is why MIT students aren’t impressed by Harvard. All MIT students are qualified to be where they are. Not true with all Harvard students.

Who cares? MIT admits a lot of kids turned down by other Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Much easier as a legacy to get into Harvard than Columbia.

This is why MIT students aren’t impressed by Harvard. All MIT students are qualified to be where they are. Not true with all Harvard students.

Anonymous wrote:Much easier as a legacy to get into Harvard than Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

You seem to be suggesting OP's kid should be picking a school based on the name recognition of Harvard among ill-informed middle managers at some random company in China? How sad. Scores of American universities besides Harvard have been full of international students for a long time.

Where did I mention middle management or a random company in China? Harvard has the highest and best name recognition period. MIT and Stanford are in the ballpark with Harvard.

And why is what the foreigners in Asia think about Harvard so important here? Is OP’s kid going to work in China?

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

You seem to be suggesting OP's kid should be picking a school based on the name recognition of Harvard among ill-informed middle managers at some random company in China? How sad. Scores of American universities besides Harvard have been full of international students for a long time.

Where did I mention middle management or a random company in China? Harvard has the highest and best name recognition period. MIT and Stanford are in the ballpark with Harvard.

And why is what the foreigners in Asia think about Harvard so important here? Is OP’s kid going to work in China?

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

You seem to be suggesting OP's kid should be picking a school based on the name recognition of Harvard among ill-informed middle managers at some random company in China? How sad. Scores of American universities besides Harvard have been full of international students for a long time.

Where did I mention middle management or a random company in China? Harvard has the highest and best name recognition period. MIT and Stanford are in the ballpark with Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

You seem to be suggesting OP's kid should be picking a school based on the name recognition of Harvard among ill-informed middle managers at some random company in China? How sad. Scores of American universities besides Harvard have been full of international students for a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

That's interesting! We're a rather "Americanized" Asian family, so what we know about the Asian perspective on name brands has really only been hearsay. And yes, NYC really is quite overwhelming. DS's main concern is if all his Columbia classmates opt for NYC-based socializing instead of on-campus fun.

We're from Hong Kong and the name 'Harvard' is more prestige than Rolls Royce, Channel, Gulfstreams, or any other brand you can think of. As mentioned by another poster it's instant access to the halls of finance and power, and connections with many of the movers and shakers that run Asia. Not saying that a Harvard person is any more talented than a Columbia person--far from it. Hell the most impressive people I met in HK went to schools like Illinois and Michigan, but as far as the Oxbridge - Harvard - Yale - Stanford - Princeton - Imperial crowd, Harvard will get you in while Columbia will not. And while this may not be a selling point, being a Harvard grad will excite just about any potential mother-in-law in China

Right now there are only about 12 kids per class from China and 2 kids per year from Hong Kong at Harvard College. This is from literally 10,000 bilingual kids with better SATs, grades, and likely experiences than other applicants. It really stands out in Asia.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

I've lived overseas and my experience is they'll know Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and associate them with the top level in education. They don't distinguish as much between schools that are further down.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.

In many foreign countries, Harvard has less of a pull than state unis simply bc there aren’t many Harvard grads in position of power. Those who studied overseas and returned (and are now in position of power) often went to less expensive unis such as the U of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, UCLA...

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, from an overseas perspective. We lived in Asia and it is said "Harvard" is probably the most valuable 'brand name' in all of Asia. It's an instant door opener in the business community in some countries.

I think I'd also rather be a student in Cambridge than in New York. I love NY, but the idea of four years there in 'student mode' would be a bit rough.