Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:29     Subject: Re:Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think letting neighborhood kids play together is pretty low risk, assuming none of the parents are going to work.

Is there a risk? Yes. But it's not very high.

FWIW we're completely locked down in our house and not allowing any sort of play dates, indoors or outdoors, but I am not judging the families that interact a little bit.


+1


I am also letting my single child play outside. We live in a TH community where there are 4 other families with kids. Both my H and I work from home and I have been to the grocery store 2 times since the lockdown. No other outside excursions. All the other parents work from home too and are only venturing outside for grocery shopping. I thought this did not pose much of a risk, but now I am honestly wondering if it is a bad call. Other people were able to do so, but I was not able to keep my son at home while the other kids played and he felt sad and alone...



What do you mean you were not able to keep your son at home? Who is the parent in your home?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:23     Subject: Re:Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think letting neighborhood kids play together is pretty low risk, assuming none of the parents are going to work.

Is there a risk? Yes. But it's not very high.

FWIW we're completely locked down in our house and not allowing any sort of play dates, indoors or outdoors, but I am not judging the families that interact a little bit.


+1


I am also letting my single child play outside. We live in a TH community where there are 4 other families with kids. Both my H and I work from home and I have been to the grocery store 2 times since the lockdown. No other outside excursions. All the other parents work from home too and are only venturing outside for grocery shopping. I thought this did not pose much of a risk, but now I am honestly wondering if it is a bad call. Other people were able to do so, but I was not able to keep my son at home while the other kids played and he felt sad and alone...
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:19     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like you have parents who allow screen time and others post how they allow 30 minutes once per week, you have parents who need to do social distancing better than everyone else and discuss on forums like this. I'm not sure if it's an anxiety coping technique or what.....but it's certainly not limited to the current pandemic.

My boomer parents are at the grocery store multiple times per week....sometimes in more than one store in a day! So I don't particularly worry about letting my kid ride his bike outside with other neighborhood kids. He knows not to play tag or basketball though and comes home if it shifts in that direction.

We're all doing the best we can. Some posters here just need to make it clear how their best is better than everyone else.

Really disturbing article in the NY Times today about the effect of no-outside time on Spain's children, if anyone is interested. I'm all for taking this public health crisis seriously, but it was never realistic to achieve 100% perfect social distancing. Overall, we've done pretty well. But some states are opening up and it's getting a little riot-y in a few places. What we're doing isn't sustainable.


How much your kids watch TV has no effect on me. How many other kids your kids play with unfortunately does. Sorry to trouble you.


Exactly - this should be a community effort - everyone's actions are affecting everyone else's I think the people letting kids play with others are selfish.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:19     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

There is data out now. Kids riding bikes outside is not a genuine risk.

https://www.businessinsider.com/death-rate-german-laboratory-city-5x-less-than-national-average-2020-4?op=1
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:16     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1251210248406343681

Assessing risk and managing anxiety are important skills to teach kids. Your kids are learning that they cannot rely on you to take a measured approach.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:12     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:Just like you have parents who allow screen time and others post how they allow 30 minutes once per week, you have parents who need to do social distancing better than everyone else and discuss on forums like this. I'm not sure if it's an anxiety coping technique or what.....but it's certainly not limited to the current pandemic.

My boomer parents are at the grocery store multiple times per week....sometimes in more than one store in a day! So I don't particularly worry about letting my kid ride his bike outside with other neighborhood kids. He knows not to play tag or basketball though and comes home if it shifts in that direction.

We're all doing the best we can. Some posters here just need to make it clear how their best is better than everyone else.

Really disturbing article in the NY Times today about the effect of no-outside time on Spain's children, if anyone is interested. I'm all for taking this public health crisis seriously, but it was never realistic to achieve 100% perfect social distancing. Overall, we've done pretty well. But some states are opening up and it's getting a little riot-y in a few places. What we're doing isn't sustainable.


How much your kids watch TV has no effect on me. How many other kids your kids play with unfortunately does. Sorry to trouble you.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:05     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.


We're supposed to take walks.


No one is supposed to be taking walks. It is allowed, just like going to the grocery stores whenever you want is allowed. You just want to take a walk for your own selfish needs but it’s absolutely unnecessary.


Exercise is not a selfish need. No more than getting food is.


Exercise is fantastic for the immune system. Kids need to play. I would not do indoor play dates but outside, bike riding, etc, is good for them. As states begin to re-open how long do you intend for kids to be under 100% house arrest? There has not been a single documented case transmitted outside. Look at the studies coming out of Germany.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:04     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

There are always going to be families that make decisions you don't agree with (like, allow teen drinking in the home or parties while they are away), or do things that your family doesn't which might be hard for your kids to accept (like celebrate Christmas with presents Santa when you are atheist and don't). I know the pandemic is a more pressing concern but you get the idea - the concept is the same. At your kids' ages, OP, they are old enough to hear you out when you explain why you make the decisions that you did. Show them the news articles, show them the "flatten the curve" graphs, explain why you feel that the risks the neighbors are taking are too high for your comfort level. This is an opportunity for a calm discussion and frankly, an opportunity for them to learn to accept decisions their parents make even if they don't understand or agree. I know it's hard!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:03     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.


BUT IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU. You could unknowingly get the virus and unknowingly give the virus to your friend you unknowingly gives the virus to the grocery store worker or someone's grandma who happens to be grocery shopping. Or you give it to my husband he brings it home to my son who already has lung problems. GEEZ!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:02     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.


We're supposed to take walks.


No one is supposed to be taking walks. It is allowed, just like going to the grocery stores whenever you want is allowed. You just want to take a walk for your own selfish needs but it’s absolutely unnecessary.


I do wonder if people like PP can even hear themselves. Wow just wow


+100
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:01     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.


We're supposed to take walks.


No one is supposed to be taking walks.
It is allowed, just like going to the grocery stores whenever you want is allowed. You just want to take a walk for your own selfish needs but it’s absolutely unnecessary.


YOU ARE NUTS. Who says we can't take walks? Its people like you who are fueling all this ridiculousness about opening back up too soon. They are crazy too, but they are reacting to people like you who are just as nuts - just on the opposite end.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 14:01     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

The data is very reassuring, OP. I would let them play.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 13:59     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:Just like you have parents who allow screen time and others post how they allow 30 minutes once per week, you have parents who need to do social distancing better than everyone else and discuss on forums like this. I'm not sure if it's an anxiety coping technique or what.....but it's certainly not limited to the current pandemic.

My boomer parents are at the grocery store multiple times per week....sometimes in more than one store in a day! So I don't particularly worry about letting my kid ride his bike outside with other neighborhood kids. He knows not to play tag or basketball though and comes home if it shifts in that direction.

We're all doing the best we can. Some posters here just need to make it clear how their best is better than everyone else.

Really disturbing article in the NY Times today about the effect of no-outside time on Spain's children, if anyone is interested. I'm all for taking this public health crisis seriously, but it was never realistic to achieve 100% perfect social distancing. Overall, we've done pretty well. But some states are opening up and it's getting a little riot-y in a few places. What we're doing isn't sustainable.


Is this a joke? We should all be striving to do social distancing well, because that’s how we get through this pandemic with the fewest amount of deaths and with our medical system not completely overwhelmed. All those people who are taking social distancing seriously are ultimately helping you and your family, and everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 13:58     Subject: Re:Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:I think letting neighborhood kids play together is pretty low risk, assuming none of the parents are going to work.

Is there a risk? Yes. But it's not very high.

FWIW we're completely locked down in our house and not allowing any sort of play dates, indoors or outdoors, but I am not judging the families that interact a little bit.


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2020 13:49     Subject: Neighborhood kids are allowed to play together

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.


We're supposed to take walks.


No one is supposed to be taking walks. It is allowed, just like going to the grocery stores whenever you want is allowed. You just want to take a walk for your own selfish needs but it’s absolutely unnecessary.


Actually, yes they are.

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/stayhome

The Mayor’s Order specifies that residents may only leave their residences to:

engage in essential activities, including obtaining medical care that cannot be provided through telehealth and obtaining food and essential household goods;
perform or access essential governmental functions;
work at essential businesses;
engage in essential travel; or
engage in allowable recreational activities, as defined by the Mayor’s Order.
Any individual who willfully violates the stay-at-home order may be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, subject to a fine not exceeding $5,000, imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or both.


Again, it says it’s an allowable activity, just like grocery shopping. The original PP was judgmental about another poster who said they went to the grocery store once a week instead of once every other week like herself. Look at earlier posts.