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Anonymous wrote:There are no EV’s on the horizon with a range of more than 300 miles. That will be the next technological hurdle, and the industry just isn’t there yet. I’m out for at least five years.

Same here. For now my compromise is that I have a plug in hybrid, which I love. It has about a 20-mile all-electric range, and so I can do most of my routine driving on electric (charging overnight) but have a good range for road trips.

We do the same with our Volt, which is usually in the 55-62 mile range electric. We also have the Bolt.

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Anonymous wrote:I really like the Chevy Bolt. Good value for the money, because Chevy doesnt' draw a brand premium. Dealers are offering great discounts on it too.

What is the range? Do you travel with it? Where do you charge?

We have a Bolt. It is a 2019 but we haven’t had it since new. It is typically in the 240-260 miles range estimate. We almost always charge at home and use it just like any other car. The farthest we have driven it was to my DS’s college about two hours away.

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Anonymous wrote:I want an EV for green reasons but there are no EVs out right now that appeal to me at all. The PP who mentioned Subaru is right in line with me: I want a safe reliable crossover SUV like I have now, but EV.

The Leaf and Bolt are too small; Tesla is too weird and has concerning safety issues. I don't want a sports car, or a statement car: I want a workhorse family car.

I'm going to wait it out with my battered, paid-off ICE car. Hopefully the offerings will improve.

Don't dismiss Tesla so fast. The Model Y is exactly what you describe. We had an X but I hated the falcon doors, traded it for a Y which is just a bit smaller. I absolutely love it. We also have a 3 and love that too. The best cars ever.

Teslas have just so much plastic - if you want a luxury electric car, the Tesla isn't it, even though the pricing is entry level luxury. I don't want to be looking at the center console to see how fast I'm going. There also are some questionable safety aspects (can you get out of the backseat of your Y if you lose power in an accident?)

Yes, of course you can get out without power.
An you're not staring at the center console for speed, it's at the upper left of the screen, which is well within your peripheral vision. It takes you about five minutes to get used to.

Research the way you can get out of the backseat without power on the Y. There’s no way you can do that in an accident - and there is no option at all on the Model 3.

And yep, still all plastic.

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Anonymous wrote:I want an EV for green reasons but there are no EVs out right now that appeal to me at all. The PP who mentioned Subaru is right in line with me: I want a safe reliable crossover SUV like I have now, but EV.

The Leaf and Bolt are too small; Tesla is too weird and has concerning safety issues. I don't want a sports car, or a statement car: I want a workhorse family car.

I'm going to wait it out with my battered, paid-off ICE car. Hopefully the offerings will improve.

Don't dismiss Tesla so fast. The Model Y is exactly what you describe. We had an X but I hated the falcon doors, traded it for a Y which is just a bit smaller. I absolutely love it. We also have a 3 and love that too. The best cars ever.

Teslas have just so much plastic - if you want a luxury electric car, the Tesla isn't it, even though the pricing is entry level luxury. I don't want to be looking at the center console to see how fast I'm going. There also are some questionable safety aspects (can you get out of the backseat of your Y if you lose power in an accident?)

Yes, of course you can get out without power.
An you're not staring at the center console for speed, it's at the upper left of the screen, which is well within your peripheral vision. It takes you about five minutes to get used to.

Anonymous wrote:I want an EV for green reasons but there are no EVs out right now that appeal to me at all. The PP who mentioned Subaru is right in line with me: I want a safe reliable crossover SUV like I have now, but EV.

The Leaf and Bolt are too small; Tesla is too weird and has concerning safety issues. I don't want a sports car, or a statement car: I want a workhorse family car.

I'm going to wait it out with my battered, paid-off ICE car. Hopefully the offerings will improve.

You're in luck. Subaru just announced last week that a new all-electric model - the Solterra - will be available in the latter half of next year (2022). I think they will start taking pre-orders soon.

Wait it out with your paid-off ICE, but place your order as soon as they open for deposits. I imagine Subaru will have a massive wait list. So many brand-loyal Subaru customers have been waiting a looooooooooong time for Subaru to properly get into the hybrid and electric vehicle game.

https://www.subaru.com/solterra-ev

https://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/solterra

Mustang

Anyone seriously considering an EV due to this gas shortage frenzy?

I'm considering a used BMV i3. Anyone have one?

Well I suck at posting photos apparently

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_I.D._Buzz#/media/File:Volkswagen_press_conference,_IAA_2017,_Frankfurt_(1Y7A2075).jpg

I'm holding out for the electric hippie van.

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Anonymous wrote:There are no EV’s on the horizon with a range of more than 300 miles. That will be the next technological hurdle, and the industry just isn’t there yet. I’m out for at least five years.

Same here. For now my compromise is that I have a plug in hybrid, which I love. It has about a 20-mile all-electric range, and so I can do most of my routine driving on electric (charging overnight) but have a good range for road trips.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't test drive the Tesla if you aren't willing to get it. We hated every other EV after comparing them.

I think it drives well but it is just way too fugly.

I don't get why you think it is ugly. It is totally normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I want an EV for green reasons but there are no EVs out right now that appeal to me at all. The PP who mentioned Subaru is right in line with me: I want a safe reliable crossover SUV like I have now, but EV.

The Leaf and Bolt are too small; Tesla is too weird and has concerning safety issues. I don't want a sports car, or a statement car: I want a workhorse family car.

I'm going to wait it out with my battered, paid-off ICE car. Hopefully the offerings will improve.

Don't dismiss Tesla so fast. The Model Y is exactly what you describe. We had an X but I hated the falcon doors, traded it for a Y which is just a bit smaller. I absolutely love it. We also have a 3 and love that too. The best cars ever.

Teslas have just so much plastic - if you want a luxury electric car, the Tesla isn't it, even though the pricing is entry level luxury. I don't want to be looking at the center console to see how fast I'm going. There also are some questionable safety aspects (can you get out of the backseat of your Y if you lose power in an accident?)

Anonymous wrote:Pretty soon there will be many electric cars that are cooler and more prestigious than Tesla. Every electric car out there right now already has better build quality than Tesla. As someone else mentioned, the Taycan is obviously way cooler than any Tesla. Upcoming Audi E-tron GT and upcoming electric A6 variant, BMW i4. Teslas are so embarrassing

They are also ugly. And don't perform any better.

Anonymous wrote:Don't test drive the Tesla if you aren't willing to get it. We hated every other EV after comparing them.

I think it drives well but it is just way too fugly.

Anonymous wrote:I want an EV for green reasons but there are no EVs out right now that appeal to me at all. The PP who mentioned Subaru is right in line with me: I want a safe reliable crossover SUV like I have now, but EV.

The Leaf and Bolt are too small; Tesla is too weird and has concerning safety issues. I don't want a sports car, or a statement car: I want a workhorse family car.

I'm going to wait it out with my battered, paid-off ICE car. Hopefully the offerings will improve.

It can seat 7 so a great soccer mom car.

I think it's fugly though so I won't get one.