Anonymous
01/13/2020 18:51
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:There is no more Rush at UVA or anywhere else. Neal Peart is dead and they won't tour without him.
Nnnoooooo! Such a bummer.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 18:44
Subject: Rush at UVA
To be fair, most schools guarantee a spot to any girl who completes formal recruitment and follows all the rules (no skipping parties/events, no “suiciding,” etc.) BUT not all schools have this guarantee.
The sororities want new members. That’s how they make money, and the houses have to have a certain number of active members to remain on campus. I guess I could imagine a situation where hundreds more PNM’s go through formal recruitment than the college was expecting and they have to cut some people as a result?
The sororities want new members. That’s how they make money, and the houses have to have a certain number of active members to remain on campus. I guess I could imagine a situation where hundreds more PNM’s go through formal recruitment than the college was expecting and they have to cut some people as a result?
Anonymous
01/13/2020 17:42
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if you don't get invited to join any sorority? Then you'd feel like the biggest loser. Why are they so exclusive? So that they can feel superior?
Far more students go through rush than there are openings. And yes, if you go through to the end and get no bids, it is pretty awful. DD1 specifically chose a school with no Greek life, but that doesn’t seem to be DD2’s plan. Dreading it.
This is not true any longer. Any young woman who completes the recruitment process is guaranteed a spot. No one goes bidless. They may not get the bid they want, but every potential new member will be given a bid. (The only school where this is not true is Indiana. They are special snowflakes.)
+1 How many times has this been explained since the first page?
I think some people have baggage from their college days and can't let it go. Times have changed. If you can't get over parts of your college experience, talk to a professional to process it and don't burden your kids with this outdated information.
That may be the case at UVA, but it is not true at all schools. At my daughter’s college, they post the data after rush each year. Last year 7 girls didn’t get bids. The previous year, it was 17.
Can you read? I said "any young woman who COMPLETES the recruitment process." Potential new members are dropped for a variety of reasons, but to get dropped by every group, you have to have 1) bad grades or 2)bad morals or 3) a mean, mean personality. If you're not dumb or a total slut or a total bitch, you will be fine. Ordinary potential new members will get a bid.
+1. AS at least five posters have noted, the situation at UVA has changed. You can pledge a house if you want to. That being said, it is possible to go all four years at UVA and never once step inside a frat or sorority house, which my fourth year DS did. Greek life is what you want to make it at UVA. He was never interested and other than the few drunks at the Corner on Friday night, he had nothing to do with the Greek houses for all four years. He created a very wonderful social life from clubs and other volunteer societies.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 17:36
Subject: Rush at UVA
My 1980s memories: either I got dropped, or I got so stoned I forgot to attend some parties. I think I am repressing something.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 17:21
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if you don't get invited to join any sorority? Then you'd feel like the biggest loser. Why are they so exclusive? So that they can feel superior?
Far more students go through rush than there are openings. And yes, if you go through to the end and get no bids, it is pretty awful. DD1 specifically chose a school with no Greek life, but that doesn’t seem to be DD2’s plan. Dreading it.
This is not true any longer. Any young woman who completes the recruitment process is guaranteed a spot. No one goes bidless. They may not get the bid they want, but every potential new member will be given a bid. (The only school where this is not true is Indiana. They are special snowflakes.)
+1 How many times has this been explained since the first page?
I think some people have baggage from their college days and can't let it go. Times have changed. If you can't get over parts of your college experience, talk to a professional to process it and don't burden your kids with this outdated information.
That may be the case at UVA, but it is not true at all schools. At my daughter’s college, they post the data after rush each year. Last year 7 girls didn’t get bids. The previous year, it was 17.
Can you read? I said "any young woman who COMPLETES the recruitment process." Potential new members are dropped for a variety of reasons, but to get dropped by every group, you have to have 1) bad grades or 2)bad morals or 3) a mean, mean personality. If you're not dumb or a total slut or a total bitch, you will be fine. Ordinary potential new members will get a bid.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 17:03
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Ok. I feel like many people here don’t know rush works. In a nutshell there are several days of parties/events. After each day, the girl ranks which houses they want to go back to and the sorority ranks which girls they want back. The computer generates a list of parties/events for day 2, and as each day goes by, the girl gets a shorter list each day of which parties/events she is attending the next day until there are only 2 or 3 left. The following day she will most likely receive a bid to join on of those 2-3 remaining.
On any given day, the possibility exists that the girl does not get invited back to any sororities and is dropped out of the process. This is the harsh reality, feels like rejection by thousands of girls, and often leaves a girl wondering what’s next and having to adjust her mindset for what her social life at college will look like. I can see how it could be upsetting for most, and girls need to go into the process prepares for any outcome. It is presented as though the girl is selecting a sorority, but the sororities are actually doing 95% of the selection and they have the final say.
I would never have put myself through this process, and presented myself to be judged, but my daughter is determined and I hope she is as prepared for any possible outcome as she says she is.
Wow--this is a heck of a process for young women who are at an age where they care deeply about what others think of them and are away from home for the first time! At least it is in January and not the first week of school!
Anonymous
01/13/2020 16:36
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if you don't get invited to join any sorority? Then you'd feel like the biggest loser. Why are they so exclusive? So that they can feel superior?
Far more students go through rush than there are openings. And yes, if you go through to the end and get no bids, it is pretty awful. DD1 specifically chose a school with no Greek life, but that doesn’t seem to be DD2’s plan. Dreading it.
This is not true any longer. Any young woman who completes the recruitment process is guaranteed a spot. No one goes bidless. They may not get the bid they want, but every potential new member will be given a bid. (The only school where this is not true is Indiana. They are special snowflakes.)
+1 How many times has this been explained since the first page?
I think some people have baggage from their college days and can't let it go. Times have changed. If you can't get over parts of your college experience, talk to a professional to process it and don't burden your kids with this outdated information.
That may be the case at UVA, but it is not true at all schools. At my daughter’s college, they post the data after rush each year. Last year 7 girls didn’t get bids. The previous year, it was 17.
Oh, and you can also get completely dropped from recruitment any night of the week. That is actually quite common and happens just because you weren’t invited back by the sororities you picked. Many girls don’t even get invites to the next round. It’s not the safe and comfy process you make it out to be
I do think schools and organizations are trying to make the process better. Trying to figure out how to keep the good parts of sorority recruitment and minimizing the hurtful parts. For example changing the rules at uva so you can’t go all the way to the end and go bidless after prefs. And I’ve heard some schools don’t allow a girl to get dropped everywhere. Fine line though letting girls select their members vs being inclusive.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 16:30
Subject: Rush at UVA
I do remember one girl who was cut everywhere. It was hard to watch. She was plain and shy—very smart and kind though—and she took it better than I would have!!!
Anonymous
01/13/2020 14:43
Subject: Rush at UVA
Ok. I feel like many people here don’t know rush works. In a nutshell there are several days of parties/events. After each day, the girl ranks which houses they want to go back to and the sorority ranks which girls they want back. The computer generates a list of parties/events for day 2, and as each day goes by, the girl gets a shorter list each day of which parties/events she is attending the next day until there are only 2 or 3 left. The following day she will most likely receive a bid to join on of those 2-3 remaining.
On any given day, the possibility exists that the girl does not get invited back to any sororities and is dropped out of the process. This is the harsh reality, feels like rejection by thousands of girls, and often leaves a girl wondering what’s next and having to adjust her mindset for what her social life at college will look like. I can see how it could be upsetting for most, and girls need to go into the process prepares for any outcome. It is presented as though the girl is selecting a sorority, but the sororities are actually doing 95% of the selection and they have the final say.
I would never have put myself through this process, and presented myself to be judged, but my daughter is determined and I hope she is as prepared for any possible outcome as she says she is.
On any given day, the possibility exists that the girl does not get invited back to any sororities and is dropped out of the process. This is the harsh reality, feels like rejection by thousands of girls, and often leaves a girl wondering what’s next and having to adjust her mindset for what her social life at college will look like. I can see how it could be upsetting for most, and girls need to go into the process prepares for any outcome. It is presented as though the girl is selecting a sorority, but the sororities are actually doing 95% of the selection and they have the final say.
I would never have put myself through this process, and presented myself to be judged, but my daughter is determined and I hope she is as prepared for any possible outcome as she says she is.
EyeCandyOP
01/13/2020 13:16
Subject: Re:Rush at UVA
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Anonymous
01/13/2020 13:14
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:It’s been 20 years since I did rush at UVA and I went into it very blindly. I never saw myself as a sorority girl and I was pretty shy. That said, it was a good experience in the sense that I had to practice being in social situations, making conversation, and learning how to present myself. To my great surprise, I enjoyed meeting a lot of the girls at several different houses and was offered a bid and pledged as a first year. My sorority had many girls who were and are very down to earth, very diverse compared to other sororities, and we had many shared interests. I enjoyed living with these girls, playing intramural sports and doing service projects, and of course the parties and social events. We supported each other and had each other’s backs then and now.
My point is there is a range of sororities with different personalities and values and I think it can be a good experience and may surprise some of the naysayers. I think for girls who don’t have a strong sense of themselves and what they want and are always trying to be what other people want them to be it could be a bad experience if it didn’t work out as they might have liked (like your friends or hallmates all get into one house and you don’t) but for most girls I think it’s positive and you either find a house you like or you don’t and just decide it’s not for you and move along.
My daughter is a 3rd year at UVA and this describes her and her sorority rush experience 2 years ago perfectly.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 12:58
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if you don't get invited to join any sorority? Then you'd feel like the biggest loser. Why are they so exclusive? So that they can feel superior?
Far more students go through rush than there are openings. And yes, if you go through to the end and get no bids, it is pretty awful. DD1 specifically chose a school with no Greek life, but that doesn’t seem to be DD2’s plan. Dreading it.
This is not true any longer. Any young woman who completes the recruitment process is guaranteed a spot. No one goes bidless. They may not get the bid they want, but every potential new member will be given a bid. (The only school where this is not true is Indiana. They are special snowflakes.)
+1 How many times has this been explained since the first page?
I think some people have baggage from their college days and can't let it go. Times have changed. If you can't get over parts of your college experience, talk to a professional to process it and don't burden your kids with this outdated information.
That may be the case at UVA, but it is not true at all schools. At my daughter’s college, they post the data after rush each year. Last year 7 girls didn’t get bids. The previous year, it was 17.
Oh, and you can also get completely dropped from recruitment any night of the week. That is actually quite common and happens just because you weren’t invited back by the sororities you picked. Many girls don’t even get invites to the next round. It’s not the safe and comfy process you make it out to be
Anonymous
01/13/2020 12:56
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What if you don't get invited to join any sorority? Then you'd feel like the biggest loser. Why are they so exclusive? So that they can feel superior?
Far more students go through rush than there are openings. And yes, if you go through to the end and get no bids, it is pretty awful. DD1 specifically chose a school with no Greek life, but that doesn’t seem to be DD2’s plan. Dreading it.
This is not true any longer. Any young woman who completes the recruitment process is guaranteed a spot. No one goes bidless. They may not get the bid they want, but every potential new member will be given a bid. (The only school where this is not true is Indiana. They are special snowflakes.)
+1 How many times has this been explained since the first page?
I think some people have baggage from their college days and can't let it go. Times have changed. If you can't get over parts of your college experience, talk to a professional to process it and don't burden your kids with this outdated information.
That may be the case at UVA, but it is not true at all schools. At my daughter’s college, they post the data after rush each year. Last year 7 girls didn’t get bids. The previous year, it was 17.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 12:33
Subject: Rush at UVA
Anonymous wrote:There is no more Rush at UVA or anywhere else. Neal Peart is dead and they won't tour without him.
ba-dum ching
Anonymous
01/13/2020 08:48
Subject: Rush at UVA
There is no more Rush at UVA or anywhere else. Neal Peart is dead and they won't tour without him.