Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:18     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't you get dizzy? After about 12 hours of not eating I start to get dizzy and my eyes blur. (Kinda wondering if that's a medical issue or not)


so you have to eat every 4 hour or so? I 'm not buying it.


I think the pp is simply addicted to sugar. Cut out the processed sugar/starches, eat more natural foods. When you aren't having wild blood sugar swings your body can go for a time w/o food.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:17     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 years old. 5’5 and 115 pounds (trying to get back up to 120). And a fitness trainer. You people are nuts. Your body needs food. Fasting occasionally for religious purposes is very different from this IF nonsense. What kind of message do you think you are sending to your children? Fasting is not good for you. Keto is horrible for you. Low-Carb is bad for most people.

Your body knows what it needs to function at its best. Most people have just learned to ignore those signals. You crave specific foods for a reason. Eat a variety of foods in reasonable amounts. And move your body every single day. If you aren’t out working a physically demanding job every day, you need to add vigorous exercise daily.

There is no way you will be overweight if you listen to your body, eat a variety of foods mindful of portion size, and move your ass daily.


Oh there's a way alright. You must be male. Try being a female over 50. Working out wont fix things. I know you only see things from a "trainer" point of view - it's your bread and butter. But fasting is a great way to live longer and better and much much healthier.


LOL pretty sure PP isn't a 5'4 115 pound male.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:16     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Man, I'm so glad I don't have an eating disorder, and didn't need to develop one to lose (or maintain) 50lbs off.

And we know you're going to say you guys don't have one - nobody readily admits to having an ED.

Such sad examples for those that have children.


As a mother who grew up in a shadow of one with a severe eating disorder, I feel SO BAD for these kids. THEY KNOW, and you're disordered.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:16     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 years old. 5’5 and 115 pounds (trying to get back up to 120). And a fitness trainer. You people are nuts. Your body needs food. Fasting occasionally for religious purposes is very different from this IF nonsense. What kind of message do you think you are sending to your children? Fasting is not good for you. Keto is horrible for you. Low-Carb is bad for most people.

Your body knows what it needs to function at its best. Most people have just learned to ignore those signals. You crave specific foods for a reason. Eat a variety of foods in reasonable amounts. And move your body every single day. If you aren’t out working a physically demanding job every day, you need to add vigorous exercise daily.

There is no way you will be overweight if you listen to your body, eat a variety of foods mindful of portion size, and move your ass daily.


Oh there's a way alright. You must be male. Try being a female over 50. Working out wont fix things. I know you only see things from a "trainer" point of view - it's your bread and butter. But fasting is a great way to live longer and better and much much healthier.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:13     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Don't you get dizzy? After about 12 hours of not eating I start to get dizzy and my eyes blur. (Kinda wondering if that's a medical issue or not)


so you have to eat every 4 hour or so? I 'm not buying it.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 15:12     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:You can survive for weeks without food and certainly for days without any issue, barring medical conditions. As long as you have water, you aren't going to pass out.

Anyone watch that naked and afraid reality TV show? They go up to 21 days without really any food. They lose a ton of weight and sometimes by the second or third week they tap out or get taken out due to their health but many of them make it the full 21 days.

48 hours is really nothing for a food fast.


Exactly. Considering since you sleep for 14-16 or more of those hours. It's not bad. If you have ever had the flu or a colonoscopy you have already done this.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 08:24     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since this is a parenting site, I am perplexed/concerned by how folks justify not eating 3/7 days in front of their children, particularly their girl children.

Meal time is family time. Do these women just sit there with an empty plate and serve their kids?


I wake up first so kids don't know whether I ate breakfast. After that, everybody's schedule is completely different so on weekdays, we just can't have a meal all together. On weekends, I don't fast and eat with them. No problem at all for us )


Same here. I am not hungry for breakfast, never have been. I AM listening to my body when I skip it. My kids are teenagers and they see me eating low carb, lots of veggies/lean protein but not so rigidly that I can't enjoy some treats - like cookies and pizza - every now and then. They see me and their dad going out on dates nights. They see me exercising regularly and they see that at the age of 53 I am able to be active and do fun things. They also see me do a 36 hour fast once a week and fairly rarely twice a week. My kids don't fast but they do enjoy some of the healthy, low carb meals that I make and even request them. One or two nights a week we don't eat together. I'm sure that's the case for many families with active teens. It really is no big deal.

Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 06:13     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm probably taking this conversation off its course, but for anyone who does intermittent fasting: do you drink coffee during your fast time and if so, do you add milk/ cream to it? I have been doing a combo of IF and weight watchers and it has been working. I've found IF to be pretty easy, EXCEPT that I need a splash of milk (not cream) in my morning coffee. And I need my coffee. Am I undoing the effectiveness of IF? I'm losing weight (slowly), but I'm curious to know if its just the WW plan and I've rendered my IF efforts ineffective from my tablespoon of 2% during fasting hours.


Many people who do IF actually start the day with bulletproof coffee (I think it is butter and coconut milk or something - not my thing) and they seem to do fine. My understanding is that pure fat is less likely to break your body's fasting state than protein or carbs. Essentially, though, if what you are doing works, then its working! The major IF discussion boards say that keeping your calories to under 500 a day "counts" as a fasting day, regardless of WHAT you eat...though I'd imagine sugar would spike your insulin pretty quick, and preventing an insulin response is the goal of IF.


No, you mistake keto for IF. On keto, some people choose to drink bulletproof coffee - but that's definitely not IF. Because the amount of calories in that butter is way higher than 50 calories.


No, I don’t mistake keto for IF. Many people do both, and the IF boards are full of people talking about it. Yes, bulletproof coffee has more than 50 calories. In the 5/2 IF method allows 500 daily calories. If you want to blow some of your calories on coffee, you can and people do. I do IF, do not do keto, but adore coffee. I have coffee with cream every morning, fast day or not.


The PP who asked if she can add milk to her coffee doesn't fast - she is doing IF. What's most important is that it's 16:8 IF, not 5/2 IF. Those are very different. If you drink bulletproof coffee in the morning, than it's definitely not 16:8 IF.



I think we don’t have to be too rigid in these definitions. That NPR article is a good place to start: science is telling us that our bodies need a rest from processing food - we need large chunks of time without high levels of insulin in our bodies. There are probably multiple ways to achieve that, including simply not snacking and not being overweight. For those of us who are overweight or have health impacts of insulin resistance, we need something a little more intentional. I have found that my BP and cholesterols normalize better on 5/2 than 16:8, but I’m not about to tell other people what works for them.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 00:44     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm probably taking this conversation off its course, but for anyone who does intermittent fasting: do you drink coffee during your fast time and if so, do you add milk/ cream to it? I have been doing a combo of IF and weight watchers and it has been working. I've found IF to be pretty easy, EXCEPT that I need a splash of milk (not cream) in my morning coffee. And I need my coffee. Am I undoing the effectiveness of IF? I'm losing weight (slowly), but I'm curious to know if its just the WW plan and I've rendered my IF efforts ineffective from my tablespoon of 2% during fasting hours.


Many people who do IF actually start the day with bulletproof coffee (I think it is butter and coconut milk or something - not my thing) and they seem to do fine. My understanding is that pure fat is less likely to break your body's fasting state than protein or carbs. Essentially, though, if what you are doing works, then its working! The major IF discussion boards say that keeping your calories to under 500 a day "counts" as a fasting day, regardless of WHAT you eat...though I'd imagine sugar would spike your insulin pretty quick, and preventing an insulin response is the goal of IF.


No, you mistake keto for IF. On keto, some people choose to drink bulletproof coffee - but that's definitely not IF. Because the amount of calories in that butter is way higher than 50 calories.


No, I don’t mistake keto for IF. Many people do both, and the IF boards are full of people talking about it. Yes, bulletproof coffee has more than 50 calories. In the 5/2 IF method allows 500 daily calories. If you want to blow some of your calories on coffee, you can and people do. I do IF, do not do keto, but adore coffee. I have coffee with cream every morning, fast day or not.


The PP who asked if she can add milk to her coffee doesn't fast - she is doing IF. What's most important is that it's 16:8 IF, not 5/2 IF. Those are very different. If you drink bulletproof coffee in the morning, than it's definitely not 16:8 IF.

Anonymous
Post 12/11/2019 00:34     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Man, I'm so glad I don't have an eating disorder, and didn't need to develop one to lose (or maintain) 50lbs off.

And we know you're going to say you guys don't have one - nobody readily admits to having an ED.

Such sad examples for those that have children.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2019 20:58     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:I have vowel issues and cannot eat at all during the day until I get home and have unlimited access to the bathroom. It sucks and my stomach growls during the day. I dont have insurance and can’t afford to go to the doctor. You people are crazy.


Bowel issues.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2019 20:57     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
I have vowel issues and cannot eat at all during the day until I get home and have unlimited access to the bathroom. It sucks and my stomach growls during the day. I dont have insurance and can’t afford to go to the doctor. You people are crazy.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2019 20:23     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm probably taking this conversation off its course, but for anyone who does intermittent fasting: do you drink coffee during your fast time and if so, do you add milk/ cream to it? I have been doing a combo of IF and weight watchers and it has been working. I've found IF to be pretty easy, EXCEPT that I need a splash of milk (not cream) in my morning coffee. And I need my coffee. Am I undoing the effectiveness of IF? I'm losing weight (slowly), but I'm curious to know if its just the WW plan and I've rendered my IF efforts ineffective from my tablespoon of 2% during fasting hours.


Many people who do IF actually start the day with bulletproof coffee (I think it is butter and coconut milk or something - not my thing) and they seem to do fine. My understanding is that pure fat is less likely to break your body's fasting state than protein or carbs. Essentially, though, if what you are doing works, then its working! The major IF discussion boards say that keeping your calories to under 500 a day "counts" as a fasting day, regardless of WHAT you eat...though I'd imagine sugar would spike your insulin pretty quick, and preventing an insulin response is the goal of IF.


No, you mistake keto for IF. On keto, some people choose to drink bulletproof coffee - but that's definitely not IF. Because the amount of calories in that butter is way higher than 50 calories.


No, I don’t mistake keto for IF. Many people do both, and the IF boards are full of people talking about it. Yes, bulletproof coffee has more than 50 calories. In the 5/2 IF method allows 500 daily calories. If you want to blow some of your calories on coffee, you can and people do. I do IF, do not do keto, but adore coffee. I have coffee with cream every morning, fast day or not.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2019 17:34     Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
You are being ridiculous. I gained 35 lbs with my second pregnancy and I just lost them during last 17 mo doing IF, counting calories, low carb and lately, fasting for 1 or (seldom) 2 days a week. I am no longer overweight, I am close to my desired weight which will still be very much within normal BMI - and once I am there I will be less strict. I realize that I will always have to be mindful of calories but I may fast less often.

And you, as we all suspected, are indeed only justifying your being overweight.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2019 17:06     Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since this is a parenting site, I am perplexed/concerned by how folks justify not eating 3/7 days in front of their children, particularly their girl children.

Meal time is family time. Do these women just sit there with an empty plate and serve their kids?


I wake up first so kids don't know whether I ate breakfast. After that, everybody's schedule is completely different so on weekdays, we just can't have a meal all together. On weekends, I don't fast and eat with them. No problem at all for us )


It just sounds like you're hiding an addiction.


NP, and I completely agree about the kids thing. The people on here doing IF to be skinny are sending very clear messages to their kids about bodies and worth--and I don't buy for a second that the kids don't realize what's going on. It's so damaging. I grew up with two weight-obsessed parents and struggled with those issues for a long time, while my sister has had a severe eating disorder. So, yeah, I'll happily carry a little extra weight if it reduces the risk of my kids basing their self-worth on their size.