Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:54     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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You did not answer it until this post. Sounds like you are inclined to think this is a procedural violation and not much more. I strongly disagree. As do multiple previous posters who have worked in SCIFs. And I think you are kind of right in your overall point in that the sustained outrage makes it difficult to keep being outraged. But I disagree that most of these things are not worthy of the outrage in the first place.

Almost all of Trump's issues would have individually consumed another Presidency.


Since you seem reasonable unlike most of the posters on this forum who are just blindly biased here is a serious thought for you. If the goal is to win the next election, find out the issues that matter to much of middle America and have an agenda that promotes those priorities. Now that is the way to win in 2020.



DP. This isn't about "winning", it's about following the Constitution and the law. Apparently, breaking the law means winning for you.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:53     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Ohio. How do I find out if my congressman is part of this?


Call the office. If staffer denies s/he was part of it ask that the Representative condemn it.


https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative#targetText=If%20you%20know%20who%20your,the%20U.S.%20House%20switchboard%20operator.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:52     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:
You did not answer it until this post. Sounds like you are inclined to think this is a procedural violation and not much more. I strongly disagree. As do multiple previous posters who have worked in SCIFs. And I think you are kind of right in your overall point in that the sustained outrage makes it difficult to keep being outraged. But I disagree that most of these things are not worthy of the outrage in the first place.

Almost all of Trump's issues would have individually consumed another Presidency.


Since you seem reasonable unlike most of the posters on this forum who are just blindly biased here is a serious thought for you. If the goal is to win the next election, find out the issues that matter to much of middle America and have an agenda that promotes those priorities. Now that is the way to win in 2020.

Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:49     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday testimony was intentionally leaked and none of you cared to come on here and complain about that bastardization of the sacred house process.

All of the opening statements have been made public.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:49     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:All the Republicans are doing is showing how utterly terrified they are by the impeachment investigation.


You are living in a dream world. Trump will not be removed from office. It is all a pointless exercise.


Right. It’s pointless because the Republicans will not do their constitutional duty, correct?
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:48     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:All the Republicans are doing is showing how utterly terrified they are by the impeachment investigation.


You literally do not understand the nation's conscience when you think it's totally cool to disenfranchise millions of voters by attempting to impeach because of a narrative you refuse to show the public.

You are seeking to depose a duly elected President of the United States of America behind closed doors. What did you think was going to happen?


I've read all the public opening statements of the people deposed. Have you?


+1000
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:48     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:When you are outraged about everything, legitimate issues on which one should be outraged about gets overlooked or is assumed to be more of the same.


Yesterday the outrage was about Trump using the term lynching with regard to impeachment and then it turned out that several Democrats used the same term to describe the Clinton impeachment including Biden!

Such a lot of phony outrage!


Phony like our constitution.


Like I said, a constant state of outrage causes legitimate outrage to be dismissed.

Remember the boy who cried wolf .........


Again I ask you. Is this a legitimate outrage being obfuscated by excessive outrage or is this part of the outrage cloud of nonsense you are trying to denounce?


Of course, there are things that warrant outrage. I think Trump's putting the Kurds at risk is just terrible and inexcusable. But like I said Democrats go into a fit of outrage over anything and everything that Trump and the Republicans do. The net effect is that one gets desensitized to it.

BTW, i am not a Trump supporter. i did not vote for him but I know quite a few who have - some reluctantly - and trust me when I say they just ignore most of this faux outrage.


Why is this question so hard for you? Is tweeting from inside the SCIF outrage worthy or not?


I answered the question ..... it was not an answer that you liked. If national security was jeopardized it is a concern otherwise it is a procedural violation but hardly anything to get hysterical about.

Anyway, come tomorrow, this will recede into the background and we will have the next faux outrage of the day.


Guess what? National security was jeopardized.


Then prosecute those responsible for doing so based on FACTS ...... not just a lot of hysteria.


Prosecute who? The 25 house GOP members who barged into a SCIF with their cell phones, and the other Republicans who knew about it and let it happen? Gladly.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:48     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:Gaetz wasn’t the only one who brought his phone into the SCIF. They should all be arrested, but that’s actually what they want. So what to do?

I don’t see the problem with arresting them. That is blatantly violating the rules which they certainly all must know. It’s anarchy.
- OP


They definitely would throw your ass in jail if you did it
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:46     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:46     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday testimony was intentionally leaked and none of you cared to come on here and complain about that bastardization of the sacred house process.


Umm...

I won't call you a troll, because that's a no-no.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:46     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday testimony was intentionally leaked and none of you cared to come on here and complain about that bastardization of the sacred house process.


Leaking photos of testimony is bad. 100%. It is not bring your cellphone into a SCIF and tweet from it bad but it is bad. It is more run of the mill bad though than, JFC you're compromising national security bad.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:46     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

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Anonymous wrote:When you are outraged about everything, legitimate issues on which one should be outraged about gets overlooked or is assumed to be more of the same.


Yesterday the outrage was about Trump using the term lynching with regard to impeachment and then it turned out that several Democrats used the same term to describe the Clinton impeachment including Biden!

Such a lot of phony outrage!


Phony like our constitution.


Like I said, a constant state of outrage causes legitimate outrage to be dismissed.

Remember the boy who cried wolf .........


Again I ask you. Is this a legitimate outrage being obfuscated by excessive outrage or is this part of the outrage cloud of nonsense you are trying to denounce?


Of course, there are things that warrant outrage. I think Trump's putting the Kurds at risk is just terrible and inexcusable. But like I said Democrats go into a fit of outrage over anything and everything that Trump and the Republicans do. The net effect is that one gets desensitized to it.

BTW, i am not a Trump supporter. i did not vote for him but I know quite a few who have - some reluctantly - and trust me when I say they just ignore most of this faux outrage.


Why is this question so hard for you? Is tweeting from inside the SCIF outrage worthy or not?


I answered the question ..... it was not an answer that you liked. If national security was jeopardized it is a concern otherwise it is a procedural violation but hardly anything to get hysterical about.

Anyway, come tomorrow, this will recede into the background and we will have the next faux outrage of the day.


Guess what? National security was jeopardized.


Then prosecute those responsible for doing so based on FACTS ...... not just a lot of hysteria.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:45     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:When you are outraged about everything, legitimate issues on which one should be outraged about gets overlooked or is assumed to be more of the same.


Yesterday the outrage was about Trump using the term lynching with regard to impeachment and then it turned out that several Democrats used the same term to describe the Clinton impeachment including Biden!

Such a lot of phony outrage!


Phony like our constitution.


Like I said, a constant state of outrage causes legitimate outrage to be dismissed.

Remember the boy who cried wolf .........


Again I ask you. Is this a legitimate outrage being obfuscated by excessive outrage or is this part of the outrage cloud of nonsense you are trying to denounce?


Of course, there are things that warrant outrage. I think Trump's putting the Kurds at risk is just terrible and inexcusable. But like I said Democrats go into a fit of outrage over anything and everything that Trump and the Republicans do. The net effect is that one gets desensitized to it.

BTW, i am not a Trump supporter. i did not vote for him but I know quite a few who have - some reluctantly - and trust me when I say they just ignore most of this faux outrage.


Why is this question so hard for you? Is tweeting from inside the SCIF outrage worthy or not?


I answered the question ..... it was not an answer that you liked. If national security was jeopardized it is a concern otherwise it is a procedural violation but hardly anything to get hysterical about.

Anyway, come tomorrow, this will recede into the background and we will have the next faux outrage of the day.


You did not answer it until this post. Sounds like you are inclined to think this is a procedural violation and not much more. I strongly disagree. As do multiple previous posters who have worked in SCIFs. And I think you are kind of right in your overall point in that the sustained outrage makes it difficult to keep being outraged. But I disagree that most of these things are not worthy of the outrage in the first place.

Almost all of Trump's issues would have individually consumed another Presidency.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:45     Subject: Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Yesterday testimony was intentionally leaked and none of you cared to come on here and complain about that bastardization of the sacred house process.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2019 14:44     Subject: Re:Republicans storm SCIF in violation of the rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you are outraged about everything, legitimate issues on which one should be outraged about gets overlooked or is assumed to be more of the same.


Yesterday the outrage was about Trump using the term lynching with regard to impeachment and then it turned out that several Democrats used the same term to describe the Clinton impeachment including Biden!

Such a lot of phony outrage!


Phony like our constitution.


Like I said, a constant state of outrage causes legitimate outrage to be dismissed.

Remember the boy who cried wolf .........


Again I ask you. Is this a legitimate outrage being obfuscated by excessive outrage or is this part of the outrage cloud of nonsense you are trying to denounce?


Of course, there are things that warrant outrage. I think Trump's putting the Kurds at risk is just terrible and inexcusable. But like I said Democrats go into a fit of outrage over anything and everything that Trump and the Republicans do. The net effect is that one gets desensitized to it.

BTW, i am not a Trump supporter. i did not vote for him but I know quite a few who have - some reluctantly - and trust me when I say they just ignore most of this faux outrage.

And I do t give a sh&@ what the Trump supporters think!


Well we have something in common: they don't give a rat's ass what Democrats think!