Anonymous
10/27/2019 06:34
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
+1
Pretty shitty
OP asked a question to understand her atheist friend. You twisting this into something nefarious is the “gotcha.” But you probably can’t see what the rest of us see about your manipulation here.
NP.
"The rest of us?" Ahahaha.
You may not be on your own, but I -- like several other posters -- am appalled at OP.
Anonymous
10/27/2019 06:34
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
+1
Pretty shitty
OP asked a question to understand her atheist friend. You twisting this into something nefarious is the “gotcha.” But you probably can’t see what the rest of us see about your manipulation here.
You are being willfully blind. OP is not a good person.
If you’re trying to make atheists look petty, manipulative, and downright deceitful, you’re doing a great job. Keep it up.
Anonymous
10/27/2019 04:24
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There may be no significant medical effect.
Please don't mis-state facts. There IS NO significant medical effect.
Where's the mis-statement? The language here is "may be no...but...." A turn of phrase that's used by educated people everywhere, who understand that it doesn't imply anything definitive about the first clause.
You pointed out the reason it is a mis-statement yourself. That it "doesn't imply anything definitive". But it should, and MUST, as it IS definitive, and we are dealing with people's health.
You seriously don't understand the language behind this? This is a simple turn of phrase that implies nothing about the value of prayer. You're deliberately "mis-"interpreting here. Why you're wasting our time is anybody's guess.
Sorry, but I disagree. Don't equivocate. There is no medical effect. I don't know why you can't just say that and I don't think it is wasting anyone's time because it is a very important point.
Pp never said that. Google the sentence construction.
Oh, really?
There may be no significant medical effect.
"may be"
you need to say
"is no"
Are you implying there is no difference?
It’s already a statement contrary to fact, dumba$$. Similar construction: The grass may not be blue, but it’s pretty.
No, that is a terrible example, because in the previous statement, if you expanded it fully, indicates a possibility that there also “may” be a benefit, and there is none. Please answer the question asked, though: Is there no difference in the two statements above?
Anonymous
10/27/2019 00:49
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
+1
Pretty shitty
OP asked a question to understand her atheist friend. You twisting this into something nefarious is the “gotcha.” But you probably can’t see what the rest of us see about your manipulation here.
You are being willfully blind. OP is not a good person.
Anonymous
10/27/2019 00:29
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If one atheist called and asked for prayers, why would you write "why do atheists ask for prayers"?
OP likes to generalize atheists?
Is English your first language? You've been on the wrong side of two picky language issues on this thread so far, and counting.
Which two? Please explain.
Still curious about this. What were the language issues?
Anonymous
10/26/2019 23:14
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There may be no significant medical effect.
Please don't mis-state facts. There IS NO significant medical effect.
Where's the mis-statement? The language here is "may be no...but...." A turn of phrase that's used by educated people everywhere, who understand that it doesn't imply anything definitive about the first clause.
You pointed out the reason it is a mis-statement yourself. That it "doesn't imply anything definitive". But it should, and MUST, as it IS definitive, and we are dealing with people's health.
You seriously don't understand the language behind this? This is a simple turn of phrase that implies nothing about the value of prayer. You're deliberately "mis-"interpreting here. Why you're wasting our time is anybody's guess.
Sorry, but I disagree. Don't equivocate. There is no medical effect. I don't know why you can't just say that and I don't think it is wasting anyone's time because it is a very important point.
Pp never said that. Google the sentence construction.
Oh, really?
There may be no significant medical effect.
"may be"
you need to say
"is no"
Are you implying there is no difference?
It’s already a statement contrary to fact, dumba$$. Similar construction: The grass may not be blue, but it’s pretty.
Hey y’all, here’s the full quote that sneaky atheist pp keeps truncating.
“There may be no significant medical effect. But if you're giving someone hope, or demonstrating that you love them enough to spend time on them by praying, those things can have non-quantifiable but great impacts on a patient.”
See that “but” she cut off? I can’t even believe we’re discussing this. Only someone with her head up her “but”, or who is desperate to stir up a fight, would be this disingenuous.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 21:20
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
+1
Pretty shitty
OP asked a question to understand her atheist friend. You twisting this into something nefarious is the “gotcha.” But you probably can’t see what the rest of us see about your manipulation here.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 20:02
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
+1
Pretty shitty
Anonymous
10/26/2019 19:59
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
NP here and I agree. What a terrible friend. I hope cancer victim is not on dcum to see how her “friend” is responding to her sharing her very difficult news.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 19:15
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An acquaintance called me and asked me to pray for her healing. She is an atheist and was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Of course, I said I would pray for her but my prayer would be for healing if it is God's will but I would also pray that God would give her peace and comfort and take away her fear.She accepted this but why would an atheist believe in The power of prayer?
Because she will die in the next 3-6 months.
If it's a just-in-case, cover-your-bases kind of thing, she's probably asking the same thing (or the equivalent) of people she knows of any faith: Muslim, Christian, Hindu, and all the rest.
This is me. I do not believe in god, but when my son was in the hospital and we were told he wasn’t gonna make it. I told everyone and anyone to pray, send thoughts, send ideas anything. I was covering all my bases including any medical trials. Nothing to lose at that point and i wasn’t gonna rule out anything!
Anonymous
10/26/2019 19:10
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Can you even read. She described it. Evil. Her poor friend is dying and all she cares about is "gotcha!"
Anonymous
10/26/2019 18:36
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Where? When? You’re fantasizing.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 18:18
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's pretty sick that OP is playing gotcha with someone who is dying. What sort of evil religious is she?
It’s pretty sick that you’re making up sick scenarios about an anonymous poster based on zero info about her. What’s wrong with you?
OP literally described what she's doing. It's sick behavior.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 18:03
Subject: Re:Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist, and I've asked for prayers a couple of times, for one of two reasons. 1) What I meant was "keep me in your thoughts, knowing that someone is wishing for my recovery makes me feel better," but because I know that particular audience, I translated it to "keep me in your prayers" because that was essentially the same thing, and I didn't want to get into a discussion on the difference between "keep me in your thoughts" and "keep me in your prayers" because I was dealing with a medical crisis; or 2) some people really wanted to do something for me, or seemed really upset. I didn't want the emotional burden of coming up with a list of tasks that I would feel comfortable asking of them, so I just said "keep me in your prayers" because that made them feel useful.
That’s a good atheist.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 18:01
Subject: Why do athesists ask for prayers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not an atheist then.
+1
True atheists I know would never ask for a prayer even in the worst of times.