Good for them!

It’s about time. I think Harry is feeling especially protective now that Meghan is a the mother of his child. They waited patiently, nothing changed. Now is time for action.

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Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Laws are totally different in UK. Public figures have much more protection.

Well I'm a lawyer, with admittedly little knowledge of UK law, but I do not see what the claim is at all. From news reports, it seems to center on the publication of Megan's letter (or the editing of the letter), but the paper likely got it from her father which seems to complicate any data privacy claim, and if it is a defamation case, unless the paper completely edited it to change its contents (in a defamatory way), I cannot see how this is grounds for much. And with respect to the latter, truth is always a defense and it does not seem like a good strategy for Megan/Harry to try to refute, one by one, each and every media allegation re: her family relationships, or day to day royal life, etc. I understand why they want to do this, and the British press is vicious, but I could see this case falling apart--though then again, perhaps that doesn't much matter, since this would only transpire months or even years from now, and they really just want to try to draw a hard line now.

If you were actually a lawyer, or if you were a good lawyer, you would know that if you have little to no knowledge of the UK laws than your opinion is essentially useless. You would also be someone who paid attention to detail and would understand they were suing for copyright infringement and not defamation.

But please illuminate us how a US attorney's opinions on a defamation case's viability are relevant when discussing a UK case for copyright infringement.

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Anonymous wrote:They are such snowflakes. She courts the press at every opportunity and then when they play into her game, she snaps.

Exactly. Can't have it both ways which is why this comes across as a tantrum.

+1

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Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Laws are totally different in UK. Public figures have much more protection.

Well I'm a lawyer, with admittedly little knowledge of UK law, but I do not see what the claim is at all. From news reports, it seems to center on the publication of Megan's letter (or the editing of the letter), but the paper likely got it from her father which seems to complicate any data privacy claim, and if it is a defamation case, unless the paper completely edited it to change its contents (in a defamatory way), I cannot see how this is grounds for much. And with respect to the latter, truth is always a defense and it does not seem like a good strategy for Megan/Harry to try to refute, one by one, each and every media allegation re: her family relationships, or day to day royal life, etc. I understand why they want to do this, and the British press is vicious, but I could see this case falling apart--though then again, perhaps that doesn't much matter, since this would only transpire months or even years from now, and they really just want to try to draw a hard line now.

They're not suing for defamation. They're suing for copyright infringement. Also misuse of private data and under the 2018 UK Data Protection Act.

Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Laws are totally different in UK. Public figures have much more protection.

Well I'm a lawyer, with admittedly little knowledge of UK law, but I do not see what the claim is at all. From news reports, it seems to center on the publication of Megan's letter (or the editing of the letter), but the paper likely got it from her father which seems to complicate any data privacy claim, and if it is a defamation case, unless the paper completely edited it to change its contents (in a defamatory way), I cannot see how this is grounds for much. And with respect to the latter, truth is always a defense and it does not seem like a good strategy for Megan/Harry to try to refute, one by one, each and every media allegation re: her family relationships, or day to day royal life, etc. I understand why they want to do this, and the British press is vicious, but I could see this case falling apart--though then again, perhaps that doesn't much matter, since this would only transpire months or even years from now, and they really just want to try to draw a hard line now.

I can't see how the British press don't realize they are on the wrong side of history with this.




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Anonymous wrote:It was all going well for her in the press on this Africa trip- she wasn’t wearing crazy expensive givenchy couture, seems more down to earth - actually showed Archie to the world- the press was being nice... and then she had to erase all that goodwill with this. She just seems to like drama.

I think their trip just didn’t conjure up enough publicity for her liking so she had to go and create some drama. Beginning to see a pattern here. It’s always the MM show.

It is strange timing.

It’s perfect timing. There are 80 press representatives hanging on the Sussex every word in Johannesburg with them til tomorrow. Harry and Meghan also get to look them in face as they process it - the British media can’t lie about reactions with the American media right on top of them.

You’re right - it is perfect timing of the goal is to take attention away from the work they’re actually doing in Africa - bringing much needed attention to violence against women. They’re leaving today or tomorrow- this could have waited. They did the same thing when she did that vanity fair interview talking about her feelings and how in love she and Harry were - then right after they issue a statement saying leave us alone we want privacy!

Those two things were almost a year apart. I agree with the PP that Harry and Meghan timed this perfectly with the culprits not having anywhere to hide. I can't figure out how to upload the video from twitter, but Harry telling Rhiannon Mills of SkyNews "Rhiannon, don't behave like this" yesterday was gold.

https://twitter.com/meghanysl/status/1179136977175744512

That woman has been following Harry around since he was in his 20s. She's an embarrassment and thinks they're close.

For those who can't see the video - Rhiannon Mills blocks Harry's car door and puts a recorder in his face.

RM: What do you (Prince Harry) hope to achieve, is that why it’s important for you to come here and talk to them?

Prince Harry: Rhiannon don’t behave like this. (Translation - get the f out of my way)

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Anonymous wrote:It was all going well for her in the press on this Africa trip- she wasn’t wearing crazy expensive givenchy couture, seems more down to earth - actually showed Archie to the world- the press was being nice... and then she had to erase all that goodwill with this. She just seems to like drama.

I think their trip just didn’t conjure up enough publicity for her liking so she had to go and create some drama. Beginning to see a pattern here. It’s always the MM show.

It is strange timing.

It’s perfect timing. There are 80 press representatives hanging on the Sussex every word in Johannesburg with them til tomorrow. Harry and Meghan also get to look them in face as they process it - the British media can’t lie about reactions with the American media right on top of them.

You’re right - it is perfect timing of the goal is to take attention away from the work they’re actually doing in Africa - bringing much needed attention to violence against women. They’re leaving today or tomorrow- this could have waited. They did the same thing when she did that vanity fair interview talking about her feelings and how in love she and Harry were - then right after they issue a statement saying leave us alone we want privacy!

Those two things were almost a year apart. I agree with the PP that Harry and Meghan timed this perfectly with the culprits not having anywhere to hide. I can't figure out how to upload the video from twitter, but Harry telling Rhiannon Mills of SkyNews "Rhiannon, don't behave like this" yesterday was gold.

https://twitter.com/meghanysl/status/1179136977175744512

Here's the thing British press, you criticize Meghan and Harry for things you allow other royals to skate past on.

You can't lecture us that 'every footprint counts' then jump on private jets every two minutes.

You can't get the public to pay £2.4 million ($2.9 million) to refurbish your luxury (free!) home then refuse to let them take photos of you at Wimbledon.

You can't throw decadent $500,000 baby showers in New York with your celebrity mates, and blag a lift home on the Clooneys' plane, then tweet at the exact same time about the urgent need to combat poverty.

You can't enjoy all the global fame and attention from a royal wedding then refuse to share basic details, or photos, of your baby when he was born.

That's not how being a royal works.

I beg to differ.

Scenario A - Charles has been lecturing on the environment since the 60s. Meanwhile he as Prince of Wales he has his own private jet and two private helicopters to hop between his three homes at leisure.
Scenario B - Plenty of photos were taken. You don't get to push up into Meghan's face while she's seated, just like there are no close-ups of Kate in Kensington Park while she's out running.
Scenario C - The british didn't pay for any of that? Why are you complaining? How about William spending thousands of pounds to buy his MIL a mansion? $1M on a driveaway? $8M on refurbishing a flat he's barely at.
Scenario D - The Queen is guilty of this and her wedding was far more extravagant than the Sussex's. The public didn't see the royal's firstborn for FOUR MONTHS after his birth in privacy at the palace. People started to wonder if he was disabled.

There are examples for everything you've criticized Meghan over and the public isn't blind to your hypocrisy.

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Daily Beast has an article today that lays out British law on this. It sounds like a very strong case.

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Anonymous wrote:It was all going well for her in the press on this Africa trip- she wasn’t wearing crazy expensive givenchy couture, seems more down to earth - actually showed Archie to the world- the press was being nice... and then she had to erase all that goodwill with this. She just seems to like drama.

I think their trip just didn’t conjure up enough publicity for her liking so she had to go and create some drama. Beginning to see a pattern here. It’s always the MM show.

It is strange timing.

It’s perfect timing. There are 80 press representatives hanging on the Sussex every word in Johannesburg with them til tomorrow. Harry and Meghan also get to look them in face as they process it - the British media can’t lie about reactions with the American media right on top of them.

You’re right - it is perfect timing of the goal is to take attention away from the work they’re actually doing in Africa - bringing much needed attention to violence against women. They’re leaving today or tomorrow- this could have waited. They did the same thing when she did that vanity fair interview talking about her feelings and how in love she and Harry were - then right after they issue a statement saying leave us alone we want privacy!

IDK Seems there's plenty of attention going around.

Meghan did an amazing speech this morning and the whole of the press corp covered it as well as her meeting with the widow of Nelson Mandela.




Like it was stated before, she doesn't need them. They need her & Harry. The British tabloids are like leeches that make money off the Sussex and think that bygones will be bygones.

Maybe it should have been...but that's not how Harry and Meghan want to handle it.

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Anonymous wrote:It was all going well for her in the press on this Africa trip- she wasn’t wearing crazy expensive givenchy couture, seems more down to earth - actually showed Archie to the world- the press was being nice... and then she had to erase all that goodwill with this. She just seems to like drama.

I think their trip just didn’t conjure up enough publicity for her liking so she had to go and create some drama. Beginning to see a pattern here. It’s always the MM show.

It is strange timing.

It’s perfect timing. There are 80 press representatives hanging on the Sussex every word in Johannesburg with them til tomorrow. Harry and Meghan also get to look them in face as they process it - the British media can’t lie about reactions with the American media right on top of them.

You’re right - it is perfect timing of the goal is to take attention away from the work they’re actually doing in Africa - bringing much needed attention to violence against women. They’re leaving today or tomorrow- this could have waited. They did the same thing when she did that vanity fair interview talking about her feelings and how in love she and Harry were - then right after they issue a statement saying leave us alone we want privacy!

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Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Laws are totally different in UK. Public figures have much more protection.

+1

Also there is no UK version of New York Times vs. Sullivan so the standard to prevail on defamation is much easier there than here. Although I’m not sure if that was one of their claims.

Anonymous wrote:Any lawyers out there...help me understand if H and M have a good case against the Daily Mail. It just seems so weak.

Laws are totally different in UK. Public figures have much more protection.

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Anonymous wrote:It was all going well for her in the press on this Africa trip- she wasn’t wearing crazy expensive givenchy couture, seems more down to earth - actually showed Archie to the world- the press was being nice... and then she had to erase all that goodwill with this. She just seems to like drama.

I think their trip just didn’t conjure up enough publicity for her liking so she had to go and create some drama. Beginning to see a pattern here. It’s always the MM show.

It is strange timing.

It’s perfect timing. There are 80 press representatives hanging on the Sussex every word in Johannesburg with them til tomorrow. Harry and Meghan also get to look them in face as they process it - the British media can’t lie about reactions with the American media right on top of them.