Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 11:18     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:Senators are waiting for the actual transcript of the phone call

That clearly shows what Trump did is wrong

Once that hits the media Trump is done


The summary of the phone call we already have is sufficient to show Trump's abuse of office. They want to see if there's a more complete version because, if so, that's obstruction of justice.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 11:17     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 11:13     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Senators are waiting for the actual transcript of the phone call

That clearly shows what Trump did is wrong

Once that hits the media Trump is done
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 11:02     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Nor Trump's use of an unsecure phone that everyone has been spying on from downtown DC since Jan 20, 2017.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 11:00     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Rep. James Comer (R-KY) tells me he believes the White House’s use of a codeword-protected server for presidential phone records should be investigated by Congress.”
- CNN’s Jim Sciutto



it's happening!

Republicans continue to believe that improper server use is the worst crime ever.


The lock-her-upers must be losing their st-t over this!


Except they're not, because they never cared about the servers - they just hated Hillary


Jared and Ivanka's private server has never bothered them!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:53     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Rep. James Comer (R-KY) tells me he believes the White House’s use of a codeword-protected server for presidential phone records should be investigated by Congress.”
- CNN’s Jim Sciutto



it's happening!

Republicans continue to believe that improper server use is the worst crime ever.


The lock-her-upers must be losing their st-t over this!


Except they're not, because they never cared about the servers - they just hated Hillary
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:51     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Rep. James Comer (R-KY) tells me he believes the White House’s use of a codeword-protected server for presidential phone records should be investigated by Congress.”
- CNN’s Jim Sciutto



it's happening!

Republicans continue to believe that improper server use is the worst crime ever.


The lock-her-upers must be losing their st-t over this!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:33     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will not turn on him until more than 50% of the voters in their states/districts favor impeachment. Because of decades of gerrymandering, it is the true believers in the primaries who control the choice of candidate---not the general electorate. Trump's base are those true believers and they receive their news predominantly from Fox and are almost cult-like about Trump.


Gerrymanders don't matter in the Senate. The primary concern is real, but if it looks like they'd just lose in the general, it should be a little less of a consideration.


Establishment Republicans have been afraid of their shadows since the tea party took over the party in 2010. Trump's demagogue appeals to the fears and prejudices of his base have made it worse. Previously establishment Republicans were protected because the party money and the major Republican interest groups would always back them against a populist challenger, but now a lot of the major interest groups also, have been taken over by the lunatic fringe, so establishment Republicans can't count on their support.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:20     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:They will not turn on him until more than 50% of the voters in their states/districts favor impeachment. Because of decades of gerrymandering, it is the true believers in the primaries who control the choice of candidate---not the general electorate. Trump's base are those true believers and they receive their news predominantly from Fox and are almost cult-like about Trump.


Gerrymanders don't matter in the Senate. The primary concern is real, but if it looks like they'd just lose in the general, it should be a little less of a consideration.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:19     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will not turn on him until more than 50% of the voters in their states/districts favor impeachment. Because of decades of gerrymandering, it is the true believers in the primaries who control the choice of candidate---not the general electorate. Trump's base are those true believers and they receive their news predominantly from Fox and are almost cult-like about Trump.


Yes, but Fox News/Murdoch is said to be turning on Trump. I hope it's true.



Apparently, Paul Ryan joined the Fox board several months ago and told Fox that Trump won't last and they need to develop a post-Trump strategy. Per Gabriel Sherman's reporting.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:17     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:Trump is not the problem here - we the voters are. He is who he is and he hasn’t hidden it. He told a reporter that he would accept dirt of on a political rival from a foreign country. So why are we shocked that he does it? He says his base would be with him if he shot a guy on 5th Avenue - so why are we are we surprised when he does the political equivalent and expects his support to hold. He told us he likes the Chinese system of president for life. Why would we not believe that he would not in a clumsy fashion attempt to bring this about here? This is also why I don’t actually think he will get us into a war with Iran or anyone else proactively- he has told us he doesn’t have a neocon bent

But “sophisticated” Trump voters tell us to ignore his words and focus on what his presidency accomplishes. Well, you can’t ignore his word - it is who he is. He is open about it. And until the American voter stands up and says “that is not who I want as president”, he will continue doing these types of things. And the elected republicans will go along with it because they believe that is what their voters want. I would like to think I would be different if the tables were turned and Trump were a democratic president who was enacting health care reform and was an abhorrent human being. But given the polarization of the country, I am not sure how I would respond. How long would I defend the indefensible? I don’t know but I think I am going to find out by watching my republican friends.


Agree. I've always found it so strange that he tells that snake story at his rallies and his voters eat it up. It's something like a person picks up a snake, the snake bites the person, the person is shocked to be bitten, and the snake says, "You knew I was a snake when you picked me up!" What are his cheering supporters thinking?? He's warning them that he will bite them!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:17     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll vote to convict because every last one of them is sick and tired of having to live this insane life.

While I don't agree with anything the Republicans stand for, I do believe most of them are true patriots. They know Trump is poison, and they're waiting breathlessly for the moment when they can turn on him.

It's going to happen. And the sooner the better -- if he's impeached before Thanksgiving, they have a chance of running someone (NOT Pence) next year.


They could've turned on him whenever they wanted. He's dirty as hell. If they wanted to ruin him they could've. They didn't think they needed to. And then, they never thought he'd win.

Supporting him has always been what their constituents wanted. But that may be changing.


They have been elected, and they are supposed to be leaders. It is a two-way job. One part is to take to Washington what their people need; the other part is to take information they gather in Washington back to their constituents and tell them about it, lead them, give their constituents their opinion on what is to be done about it and to do so persuasively. If a Republican Senator believes Trump should be impeached, it is that Senator's duty to share the information back home persuasively, not let Fox News fill in the void and do their job for them, then shake their heads in wonder that their constituents reached an unbelievable opinion. They elected the person, they trust the person to be their leader, and they are highly likely to follow them. Trust your constituents to trust you. If they don't, then the person wasn't going to survive in the district anyway.


They don’t have/make time to spend time with constituents. They’re too busy fundraising.

Get money out of politics.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:17     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Rep. James Comer (R-KY) tells me he believes the White House’s use of a codeword-protected server for presidential phone records should be investigated by Congress.”
- CNN’s Jim Sciutto



it's happening!

Republicans continue to believe that improper server use is the worst crime ever.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:16     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

As the President called the whistleblower a spy and a leaker yesterday, here’s Chuck Grassley:

"I’m going to believe he’s a whistleblower until I hear some lawyer explain why he isn’t...I’m not going to question whether or not they’re a whistleblower, I’m interested in what they’re telling me.”
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2019 10:09     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump

Anonymous wrote:“Rep. James Comer (R-KY) tells me he believes the White House’s use of a codeword-protected server for presidential phone records should be investigated by Congress.”
- CNN’s Jim Sciutto



it's happening!