Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Last year all the talk was about how FCV wasn’t good enough for the top bracket at WAGS. See below. By that logic, they’ve clearly done something right if a year later they now can get to the WAGS final with basically the same roster.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, let’s try again.

FCV 07 Opponent National Rankings:
650. LTSC, FCV won 2-0
1539. Bethesda Academy White, FCV Won 5-0
877. Deep Run, FCV won 6-2
388. Quick Strike, Tied 2-2


Loudoun 07 opponents National Rankings:
43. Top Hat, Loudoun lost 1-0
33. Cincinnati, Loudoun won 2-0
873. Penne United, Loudoun won 5-0
677. Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun won 3-0
136. Keystone, Loudoun won 2-0

The second bracket at Discovery Cup is not the same as the top bracket at WAGS.

They are definitely getting better. That new girl from Loudoun is their top scorer and has made a big impact. They added a couple of girls from some other clubs that are now starters. FCV 07 will continue to improve as they replace the girls from a year ago with better talent. Hats off to FCV recruiting success.

This year Loudoun 07 did not win a single game in tournament. Blame it on luck of draw or whatever.

FCV scored 10 goals to Loudoun's 1 in bracket play.

That girl from Loudoun is good. Keep recruiting FCV.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Last year all the talk was about how FCV wasn’t good enough for the top bracket at WAGS. See below. By that logic, they’ve clearly done something right if a year later they now can get to the WAGS final with basically the same roster.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, let’s try again.

FCV 07 Opponent National Rankings:
650. LTSC, FCV won 2-0
1539. Bethesda Academy White, FCV Won 5-0
877. Deep Run, FCV won 6-2
388. Quick Strike, Tied 2-2


Loudoun 07 opponents National Rankings:
43. Top Hat, Loudoun lost 1-0
33. Cincinnati, Loudoun won 2-0
873. Penne United, Loudoun won 5-0
677. Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun won 3-0
136. Keystone, Loudoun won 2-0

The second bracket at Discovery Cup is not the same as the top bracket at WAGS.

They are definitely getting better. That new girl from Loudoun is their top scorer and has made a big impact. They added a couple of girls from some other clubs that are now starters. FCV 07 will continue to improve as they replace the girls from a year ago with better talent. Hats off to FCV recruiting success.

This year Loudoun 07 did not win a single game in tournament. Blame it on luck of draw or whatever.

FCV scored 10 goals to Loudoun's 1 in bracket play.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Last year all the talk was about how FCV wasn’t good enough for the top bracket at WAGS. See below. By that logic, they’ve clearly done something right if a year later they now can get to the WAGS final with basically the same roster.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, let’s try again.

FCV 07 Opponent National Rankings:
650. LTSC, FCV won 2-0
1539. Bethesda Academy White, FCV Won 5-0
877. Deep Run, FCV won 6-2
388. Quick Strike, Tied 2-2


Loudoun 07 opponents National Rankings:
43. Top Hat, Loudoun lost 1-0
33. Cincinnati, Loudoun won 2-0
873. Penne United, Loudoun won 5-0
677. Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun won 3-0
136. Keystone, Loudoun won 2-0

The second bracket at Discovery Cup is not the same as the top bracket at WAGS.

They are definitely getting better. That new girl from Loudoun is their top scorer and has made a big impact. They added a couple of girls from some other clubs that are now starters. FCV 07 will continue to improve as they replace the girls from a year ago with better talent. Hats off to FCV recruiting success.

This year Loudoun 07 did not win a single game in tournament. Blame it on luck of draw or whatever.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Last year all the talk was about how FCV wasn’t good enough for the top bracket at WAGS. See below. By that logic, they’ve clearly done something right if a year later they now can get to the WAGS final with basically the same roster.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, let’s try again.

FCV 07 Opponent National Rankings:
650. LTSC, FCV won 2-0
1539. Bethesda Academy White, FCV Won 5-0
877. Deep Run, FCV won 6-2
388. Quick Strike, Tied 2-2


Loudoun 07 opponents National Rankings:
43. Top Hat, Loudoun lost 1-0
33. Cincinnati, Loudoun won 2-0
873. Penne United, Loudoun won 5-0
677. Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun won 3-0
136. Keystone, Loudoun won 2-0

The second bracket at Discovery Cup is not the same as the top bracket at WAGS.

They are definitely getting better. That new girl from Loudoun is their top scorer and has made a big impact. They added a couple of girls from some other clubs that are now starters. FCV 07 will continue to improve as they replace the girls from a year ago with better talent. Hats off to FCV recruiting success.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

LOL- youre a joke dude. Loudon was only able to score 1 goal. Three ties wont cut it.
FCV had just a hard bracket as Loudon did, and then got through #1 NJ team to make it to finals.

FCV collapsed when a big girl soccer team played them as usual. The 07s are small and slow.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

CUP had already won the group by the time they played Loudoun. They had nothing to play for and just needed to get through the game rested and ready for the semi.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

LOL- youre a joke dude. Loudon was only able to score 1 goal. Three ties wont cut it.
FCV had just a hard bracket as Loudon did, and then got through #1 NJ team to make it to finals.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Last year all the talk was about how FCV wasn’t good enough for the top bracket at WAGS. See below. By that logic, they’ve clearly done something right if a year later they now can get to the WAGS final with basically the same roster.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, let’s try again.

FCV 07 Opponent National Rankings:
650. LTSC, FCV won 2-0
1539. Bethesda Academy White, FCV Won 5-0
877. Deep Run, FCV won 6-2
388. Quick Strike, Tied 2-2


Loudoun 07 opponents National Rankings:
43. Top Hat, Loudoun lost 1-0
33. Cincinnati, Loudoun won 2-0
873. Penne United, Loudoun won 5-0
677. Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun won 3-0
136. Keystone, Loudoun won 2-0

The second bracket at Discovery Cup is not the same as the top bracket at WAGS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

FCV 07 were exposed as well to lack of development. They lost in the finals to a team that Loudoun ECNL 07 tied. Loudoun 07 got the tough draw with their bracket. Loudoun still better then the FCV DA 07 team.

Anonymous wrote:With the top 2008 group. Leigh Valley united had a meltdown in the final and lost 8-1 to Tophat

that’s a hell of a meltdown

With the top 2008 group. Leigh Valley united had a meltdown in the final and lost 8-1 to Tophat

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

They only scored 1 goal the entire tournament. Did they lose top players to FCV again or was it just lack of development and poor coaching, when compared to other clubs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

If a club isn’t developing players for 11v11, and is playing to advantages to win at 7v7 and 9v9, they are a worthless club.

You just don’t get it.

No - you’re just not familiar with Loudoun.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

On the big field the wrestling matches stop and passing matters. Midfield is king but is very hard to find. I think this is because you do not develop offensive midfielders in our system in the u littles. The field is small and size, speed and physicality will win. You really do not need high soccer IQ or to be very skilled to do well under u13 in our system.

The full field and more players makes the game a lot more complex. The big girl pushing her way by smaller girls ends because everyone has gone through puberty. Everyone on the field will be physical and fast enough. It becomes a skill game at midfield. Defenses and goalkeeping get much better. Goals are hard to get. The premium is for players who can see the field, have foot skills to create space, hold the ball, pass accurately under pressure, move off the ball and creativity.

It’s a different game. It goes from checkers to chess. Calls for different skill sets at different positions vs 9v9. So things changed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year Loudoun 07 was 3-0 and +10 on GD in group play and advanced to the WAGS final. This year they played 3 teams they beat last year at WAGS by a combined 7-0; this year they tied all 3. Lack of development exemplified.

First year playing 11v11 full field probably more at root.

It is the first year playing 11s for those other 3 clubs too.

That wasn’t the point. The game changes at full field 11v11. Some advantages that players may have on the smaller field go away. Also, depth matters more. It’s not apples to apples.

If a club isn’t developing players for 11v11, and is playing to advantages to win at 7v7 and 9v9, they are a worthless club.

There’s a thread devoted to this, here you go:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/832709.page

You can’t pin everything on “the club” and “development.”