Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to college with a frat boy who reminds me of OP kid. Arrogant, lazy, hated school, dimwitted, was not an athlete but majored in something only football players seemed to pursue. He landed a great job after college.

His father was the owner a fast growing billion dollar company, all of his internships were there, that's where he landed after we graduated. Haven't looked him up, but I recall reading in WSJ dad ended up selling the company to a Fortune 100 for a mint.

Thanks, douchebag

DP. Nice to hear from you, Grayson!

Seriously, I'm sure every single one of you has encountered a person like that who's doing just great, thankyouverymuch, despite not lifting a finger in his life. I have relatives like that so I'm speaking from experience. No need to pounce on OP for speaking the truth.

You sound very envious.

Most of us don't care what other people have or do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to college with a frat boy who reminds me of OP kid. Arrogant, lazy, hated school, dimwitted, was not an athlete but majored in something only football players seemed to pursue. He landed a great job after college.

His father was the owner a fast growing billion dollar company, all of his internships were there, that's where he landed after we graduated. Haven't looked him up, but I recall reading in WSJ dad ended up selling the company to a Fortune 100 for a mint.

Thanks, douchebag

DP. Nice to hear from you, Grayson!

Seriously, I'm sure every single one of you has encountered a person like that who's doing just great, thankyouverymuch, despite not lifting a finger in his life. I have relatives like that so I'm speaking from experience. No need to pounce on OP for speaking the truth.

If he's passing and on his way to a degree, I wouldn't pull him out or lay down an ultimatum. He hasn't found his mojo yet. He may be entrepreneurial, creative, or social and hasn't figured that out yet. A regular classroom may be boring for him so he's doing just enough to scratch by.

I do agree that you need to let him know that he's expected to get a job after college--and that he really needs to give some thought to his goals.

I’m not sure how to make him
more motivated - I was self motivated as a kid. But since he’s passing and working towards a degree I think it’s odd and counterproductive when people suggest pulling him off that track and making him go to community college. I think that risks throwing him off track and he may drift off and never graduate.

Don’t give him spending money - that can go towards beer and drugs. Make clear he’s going to have to get a job after college and you will stop bank rolling him. And that you won’t tolerate or bankroll him taking more than four years to graduate.

OK so the kid will be at a disadvantage without a degree compared to all the other slackers who slouched through.

Anonymous wrote:OP you committed to pay for college. Your son is making his own choices. If he isn't super motivated it's all the more important he get that degree. If the school thought he was unworthy they'd be kicking him out. Use a tough love approach and by that I mean the opposite: shower him with love and let him know how much you care about him and his future and keep the dialog open. Encourage or require him to start visiting his career center to start thinking ahead.

As long as the checks clear, schools want the cash, and they have systematically lowered rigor and removed requirements (https://edsource.org/2017/cal-state-drops-intermediate-algebra-requirement-allows-other-math-courses/585595), so really, anyone who doesn't physically leave campus can plow through a BA. Most students I see "kicked out" were on financial aid and either stopped attending classes and/or completion percentages or grant/loan limits were exhausted.

OP you committed to pay for college. Your son is making his own choices. If he isn't super motivated it's all the more important he get that degree. If the school thought he was unworthy they'd be kicking him out. Use a tough love approach and by that I mean the opposite: shower him with love and let him know how much you care about him and his future and keep the dialog open. Encourage or require him to start visiting his career center to start thinking ahead.

Most successful sales professionals are pretty internally
driven.

A lot of bartenders have college degrees

But again most of them have some hustle.

Some other jobs for college grads

1. House painters
2. Jobs in the trades
3. Buy a franchise like 2 men and a truck but
would still need some parents money
4. Entry level govt jobs, these are generally pretty
low pay and typically don't require college
but you can move up in the system.

*****I know male college grads doing the above mentioned
jobs but even they have some hustle.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Bush Jr’s advice to 2.0 students:

https://youtu.be/FcSa_S8tlNc

Good advice for regular Joes! Grades don’t matter... when you’re born into American aristocracy and attend most elite boarding school, most elite college and most elite business college.

Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and Zuckerberg were drop outs not born to American aristocracy. Jobs background was part Syrian, a refugee country.

Anonymous wrote:George Bush Jr’s advice to 2.0 students:

https://youtu.be/FcSa_S8tlNc

Good advice for regular Joes! Grades don’t matter... when you’re born into American aristocracy and attend most elite boarding school, most elite college and most elite business college.

Anonymous wrote:OP - you need to mention his major

Easy major at a top 100 big state u is most likely communications, sociology or marketing.

George Bush Jr’s advice to 2.0 students:

https://youtu.be/FcSa_S8tlNc

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one can tell you what you should pay for but:

Cs get degrees. Just saying.

This

Plus 1

+4 As long as he doesn't need to get into graduate school his GPA won't matter too much. And I love the Bush quote above! There is nothing like the pot calling the kettle black to make a point.