Anonymous
08/23/2019 16:25
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Part of the problem with the data is that the N is too small and the time periods too short to get truly conclusive results. Because so many of the people who felt this way in the past kept it to themselves and many many still do so you have a group that isn’t very large to begin with and then you end up with a bit of selection bias in those that are out and/or willing to participate.
Anonymous
08/23/2019 16:13
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will say that with my child and her friends there was a whole bunch of this in 6th and 7th grade. It was like every single one of them way either gay or trans or some combination thereof. This happened in such numbers that I was sure the CDC would show up to study this statistical impossibility. Fast forward to Junior year, turns out that a couple are gay and the rest are just heteronormative, cis kids. So a little caution, a little therapy are most certainly in order. I think it is hard for kids when they feel like they have to "choose" what they are.
That's because it's not a choice. You are what you are.
I cannot believe so many of you are saying that you would go along with this. I have a just-turned-12 YO boy and there is no way I would support this. Be a parent, OP. You're not there to validate every whim or feeling.
So what you’re saying is that there’s only male and female, being transgender isn’t real, and it shouldn’t be allowed. Got it.
That pretty much sums it up, yes. Especially in kids this age.
It’s hard to have a conversation with people who are so closed minded. It’s like trying to discuss how to prevent measles with an antivaxer.
Anonymous
08/23/2019 12:31
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what has changed in our society and schools such that
there are so many transsexuals or gender confused young people?
I grew up in Bowie, Frederick and Salisbury and went to
schools all over Maryland during the late 1960s and 1970s.
I can honestly say in my school experience in Bowie at age
10-11 girls were girls and boys were boys. All the way
through middle school and high school I think we had 1 gay
male post high school in our graduating class of 300 from
the eastern shore.
The 70's were not that long ago. What has changed that
we have boys wanting to be girls at age 10 and girls
wanting to be boys such that there parents are dragging
them around to medical appointments.
I guess I'm confused.
I think there are a number of things going n now. The high suicide rate is, in lacks good data, driving the pediatric community to day treat with hormone blockers. However, there is not a randomized control trial to say this decreases suicide rates, as this study would not be done. There is an argument that this will result in fewer suicides. Unfortunately this has become so politicized that when a study trying to look at rapid o set gender dysphasia was published due to every increasing rates of this being seen in population, especially girls to boys, there was an outcry in the trans community to take the study down. This was done and layer republished, but much damage was done. I wonder if the increase is relayed to the availability of YouTube and the increase in people talking to kids who are the highest users of this to put their message out - that were seen by young kids who identified with message - I am uncomfortable in my body, Ireject the issues that come with being a girl - social pressures for alpha girls - grass is greener as a boy. When, previously pediatricians would say what is u derlying this, they now say- get your child on hormone blockers stat and then go to a gender specialist. While it should be the doctor saying, do no harm. They are now saying, well maybe we are okay with over calling this as it may save lives. The data I have seen is going to convert to boys is 100% if kids go on blockers, but only 60-90% if they do not. That says something to me as a parent of a tween who is going through lots of changes in both body and brain development at this age. If I say not so sure your choice of ice cream is best for you today, why wouldn't a parent AND. a treating physician have at least the same skepticism with regard to starting medications with changing genders. Why wouldn't they want to consider underlying issues for the gender dysphoria and investigate with therapy first, prior to medicating kids with the 100% likelihood of moving forward. A number of de-tranistioners are now posting on YouTube as well and they report lots of negative responses from the trans community as they report their experiences.
Your post is hard to read. Try paragraphs, spell check, whatever.
The study you’re referring to is very flawed, because it was basically a survey of parents and their opinions on their kids being trans, not including the kids or medical professionals.
People don’t completely transition to another gender on a whim. They just don’t. They might partially transition, but they don’t go through the whole process as part of a fad. It’s complicated, expensive, and time consuming.
Anonymous
08/23/2019 11:08
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:So what has changed in our society and schools such that
there are so many transsexuals or gender confused young people?
I grew up in Bowie, Frederick and Salisbury and went to
schools all over Maryland during the late 1960s and 1970s.
I can honestly say in my school experience in Bowie at age
10-11 girls were girls and boys were boys. All the way
through middle school and high school I think we had 1 gay
male post high school in our graduating class of 300 from
the eastern shore.
The 70's were not that long ago. What has changed that
we have boys wanting to be girls at age 10 and girls
wanting to be boys such that there parents are dragging
them around to medical appointments.
I guess I'm confused.
I think there are a number of things going n now. The high suicide rate is, in lacks good data, driving the pediatric community to day treat with hormone blockers. However, there is not a randomized control trial to say this decreases suicide rates, as this study would not be done. There is an argument that this will result in fewer suicides. Unfortunately this has become so politicized that when a study trying to look at rapid o set gender dysphasia was published due to every increasing rates of this being seen in population, especially girls to boys, there was an outcry in the trans community to take the study down. This was done and layer republished, but much damage was done. I wonder if the increase is relayed to the availability of YouTube and the increase in people talking to kids who are the highest users of this to put their message out - that were seen by young kids who identified with message - I am uncomfortable in my body, Ireject the issues that come with being a girl - social pressures for alpha girls - grass is greener as a boy. When, previously pediatricians would say what is u derlying this, they now say- get your child on hormone blockers stat and then go to a gender specialist. While it should be the doctor saying, do no harm. They are now saying, well maybe we are okay with over calling this as it may save lives. The data I have seen is going to convert to boys is 100% if kids go on blockers, but only 60-90% if they do not. That says something to me as a parent of a tween who is going through lots of changes in both body and brain development at this age. If I say not so sure your choice of ice cream is best for you today, why wouldn't a parent AND. a treating physician have at least the same skepticism with regard to starting medications with changing genders. Why wouldn't they want to consider underlying issues for the gender dysphoria and investigate with therapy first, prior to medicating kids with the 100% likelihood of moving forward. A number of de-tranistioners are now posting on YouTube as well and they report lots of negative responses from the trans community as they report their experiences.
Anonymous
08/23/2019 08:41
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:So what has changed in our society and schools such that
there are so many transsexuals or gender confused young people?
I grew up in Bowie, Frederick and Salisbury and went to
schools all over Maryland during the late 1960s and 1970s.
I can honestly say in my school experience in Bowie at age
10-11 girls were girls and boys were boys. All the way
through middle school and high school I think we had 1 gay
male post high school in our graduating class of 300 from
the eastern shore.
The 70's were not that long ago. What has changed that
we have boys wanting to be girls at age 10 and girls
wanting to be boys such that there parents are dragging
them around to medical appointments.
I guess I'm confused.
What has changed is that, for the most part, kids won't get the crap beat out of them for expressing that they are anything but cisgender. Parents are also less likely to send their kids to conversion therapy and more likely to support their kids. In a less toxic environment, kids are able to express who they really are. Also, the 70s were a long time ago. Forty to fifty years is a long time, even if you don't think it's a long time.
Anonymous
08/23/2019 07:56
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:So what has changed in our society and schools such that
there are so many transsexuals or gender confused young people?
I grew up in Bowie, Frederick and Salisbury and went to
schools all over Maryland during the late 1960s and 1970s.
I can honestly say in my school experience in Bowie at age
10-11 girls were girls and boys were boys. All the way
through middle school and high school I think we had 1 gay
male post high school in our graduating class of 300 from
the eastern shore.
The 70's were not that long ago. What has changed that
we have boys wanting to be girls at age 10 and girls
wanting to be boys such that there parents are dragging
them around to medical appointments.
I guess I'm confused.
Then you need to open your eyes and educate yourself about what is really going on in schools now. But the question here to me is not about schools - it’s about parents Why op is allowing this is beyond me. And question for op: what does your DH think about this? We haven’t heard that POV
Anonymous
08/23/2019 02:44
Subject: 11 year old Son wants to be a Girl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will say that with my child and her friends there was a whole bunch of this in 6th and 7th grade. It was like every single one of them way either gay or trans or some combination thereof. This happened in such numbers that I was sure the CDC would show up to study this statistical impossibility. Fast forward to Junior year, turns out that a couple are gay and the rest are just heteronormative, cis kids. So a little caution, a little therapy are most certainly in order. I think it is hard for kids when they feel like they have to "choose" what they are.
That's because it's not a choice. You are what you are.
I cannot believe so many of you are saying that you would go along with this. I have a just-turned-12 YO boy and there is no way I would support this. Be a parent, OP. You're not there to validate every whim or feeling.
So what you’re saying is that there’s only male and female, being transgender isn’t real, and it shouldn’t be allowed. Got it.
The Right-wing "mind" is something else, isn't it.
