Anonymous
07/30/2019 09:31
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:NoVA isn’t even the most desirable spot locally, not sure why they think they are relevant nationally. When your claim to fame is being close to somewhere such as DC in this case, you should be a bit more humble about your alleged greatness.
So, do you not think the fact that it’s the capital city is significant? Or, you think there shouldn’t be a capital city? Or, that it should be NYC or Palm Beach instead? I mean, DC is so inconvenient for Trump’s golf game.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 22:49
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem with NoVa is that it is located in Virginia.
I see your IQ isn't very high considering Nova literally stands for Northern Virginia.
Yours is even lower because the point flew right over your head
Anonymous
07/29/2019 18:44
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:NoVA isn’t even the most desirable spot locally, not sure why they think they are relevant nationally. When your claim to fame is being close to somewhere such as DC in this case, you should be a bit more humble about your alleged greatness.
Lol
this x100
Anonymous
07/29/2019 18:40
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
NoVA isn’t even the most desirable spot locally, not sure why they think they are relevant nationally. When your claim to fame is being close to somewhere such as DC in this case, you should be a bit more humble about your alleged greatness.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 12:42
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a shity southern state with as much swampland around its one draw (DC). Traffic sucks so there is a race to be close but the rest is mediocre. Who would look at Springfield and think this deserves to be nice?
Was about to say something similar. SV has the Pacific on one side and gorgeous mountains on the other side + bay.
Nova is ugly as shit humid swampland.
NOVA is what it is, granted no oceans and views. But it is invigorating the Mid Atlantic in TECH plus politics. Being just outside of the heart of Congress doesn't exactly hurt and many of my neighbor lawyers and lobbyists live hear for precisely that.
If you are creating a product or service people actually want to buy or use, you won’t need to kiss a politicians ass.
Talented people have choices and choosing not to live in an expensive swamp is obviously one most make.
Actually we have a product that no one is willing to pay for, want to use for free, then trade their personal information for its use, then politicians do matter
Good point, but not all SV companies have made money this way.
Facebook, Google do, and Apple and Amazon sell services and hardware built on the back of the first two.
If we didn’t have Facebook, Google on our phones what would we do, if we actually paid for apps b/c they couldn’t harvest personal info, I suspect usage was plummet.
And AWS is backbone of Amazon profits, and SV companies are biggest customer (though DoD could be next)
Apple and Amazon are built on back of Facebook and Google? Okaaaay. Care to elaborate?
There are also companies like Uber, Lyft, and Airbnb... not to mention companies like Cisco and Oracle. Adobe. Agilent. HP. Intel etc etc
+eBay, Netflix, Tesla, Xilinx
In other words.. companies where being a worthless bureaucrat just won’t cut it
Uber, Lyft, Netflix, Tesla — all barely profitable or not profitable. They survive off venture capital, which is booming largely b/c of the actions of the Fed.
Yes FPGA are a real business, but guess what Govt is a huge customers. Same with Cisco and Oracle (and Oracle is dying).
As for why FB, Google, and ‘free, user is product’ services — most people are not spending money for the vast majority of what they do on their phone: free games, Insta, WhatsApps, email, calendars, etc — they use FB and Google services (Apple is partly there and they bundle with their hardware but small player, services so far except cloud data).
If Gov cracks down and says you can no longer trade in private ad data, and users actually have to spend $1/month for insta, $2/month for FB, $3/Gsuite — you will see profits decimated (as users are way more valuable as ad targets selling private info), and honestly I suspect you would see subscription fatigue.
1. There are still plenty of real businesses in SV. I only mentioned the names most people recognize.
2. That's a big if.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 12:39
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous
If you are creating a product or service people actually want to buy or use, you won’t need to kiss a politicians ass.
All the big SV firms have representatives in greater DC, to kiss pols asses.
Not to the same extent as the beltway bandits.
The beltway bandits are serving the SV firms (and other firms around the country)
The point is that if kissing Pols asses means you don't have a product of service people want to use, then no one has such product or service.
The bigger point is that most products or services sold by companies in DC would not be bought by anyone other than the government, so that is why you need to kiss their ass.
To give you an example - the Obamacare website cost $1.7B to build, and it's crap. You wouldn't be able to get away with this shit if you're a normal company.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 12:32
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous
If you are creating a product or service people actually want to buy or use, you won’t need to kiss a politicians ass.
All the big SV firms have representatives in greater DC, to kiss pols asses.
Not to the same extent as the beltway bandits.
The beltway bandits are serving the SV firms (and other firms around the country)
The point is that if kissing Pols asses means you don't have a product of service people want to use, then no one has such product or service.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 10:58
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a shity southern state with as much swampland around its one draw (DC). Traffic sucks so there is a race to be close but the rest is mediocre. Who would look at Springfield and think this deserves to be nice?
Was about to say something similar. SV has the Pacific on one side and gorgeous mountains on the other side + bay.
Nova is ugly as shit humid swampland.
NOVA is what it is, granted no oceans and views. But it is invigorating the Mid Atlantic in TECH plus politics. Being just outside of the heart of Congress doesn't exactly hurt and many of my neighbor lawyers and lobbyists live hear for precisely that.
If you are creating a product or service people actually want to buy or use, you won’t need to kiss a politicians ass.
Talented people have choices and choosing not to live in an expensive swamp is obviously one most make.
Actually we have a product that no one is willing to pay for, want to use for free, then trade their personal information for its use, then politicians do matter
Good point, but not all SV companies have made money this way.
Facebook, Google do, and Apple and Amazon sell services and hardware built on the back of the first two.
If we didn’t have Facebook, Google on our phones what would we do, if we actually paid for apps b/c they couldn’t harvest personal info, I suspect usage was plummet.
And AWS is backbone of Amazon profits, and SV companies are biggest customer (though DoD could be next)
Apple and Amazon are built on back of Facebook and Google? Okaaaay. Care to elaborate?
There are also companies like Uber, Lyft, and Airbnb... not to mention companies like Cisco and Oracle. Adobe. Agilent. HP. Intel etc etc
+eBay, Netflix, Tesla, Xilinx
In other words.. companies where being a worthless bureaucrat just won’t cut it
Uber, Lyft, Netflix, Tesla — all barely profitable or not profitable. They survive off venture capital, which is booming largely b/c of the actions of the Fed.
Yes FPGA are a real business, but guess what Govt is a huge customers. Same with Cisco and Oracle (and Oracle is dying).
As for why FB, Google, and ‘free, user is product’ services — most people are not spending money for the vast majority of what they do on their phone: free games, Insta, WhatsApps, email, calendars, etc — they use FB and Google services (Apple is partly there and they bundle with their hardware but small player, services so far except cloud data).
If Gov cracks down and says you can no longer trade in private ad data, and users actually have to spend $1/month for insta, $2/month for FB, $3/Gsuite — you will see profits decimated (as users are way more valuable as ad targets selling private info), and honestly I suspect you would see subscription fatigue.
Anonymous
07/29/2019 10:18
Subject: Re:What is stopping NoVA from reaching SV level prices?
Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous
If you are creating a product or service people actually want to buy or use, you won’t need to kiss a politicians ass.
All the big SV firms have representatives in greater DC, to kiss pols asses.
Not to the same extent as the beltway bandits.