Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

Oooooh... we’re sooooo scared of your threats!

+1

Stop slowing down traffic. You’re a f*cking nuisance.

Stop killing children. Stop destroying the planet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

Oooooh... we’re sooooo scared of your threats!

+1

Stop slowing down traffic. You’re a f*cking nuisance.

We. Are. Traffic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Perhaps, but I have long said that cyclists should designate one week and scrupulously follow all traffic laws. Take the lane, complete stop at all stop signs, etc. Just go on your regular route. The effect would be the same. And drivers would go up in flames.

you'd have dead cyclist, as a cyclist can't always maintain a safe speed on the road, they wuld be unable to follow the traffic laws and as such would be ticketed....

One more time, a cyclist can't be ticketed for riding in the lane, even if they go more slowly than motorized traffic. What traffic law do you think they would be violating? Please cite the section of code.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And somewhat intermediate is the case of "riding to rule". In SF a few years ago a particular cop ticketed riders for not coming to a full stop at stop sign on a popular bike route. As a protest, a big group of riders took that route, and came to an absolute, foot down, full stop, one at a time. It caused a major traffic backup, and the police decided to go easier on riders who only slowed at the stop sign.

not the best analogy, since they essentially overloaded the traffic system to make a point that they were above the law and didn't have to follow rules of the road. if drivers did the same thing and ran every cyclist off the road everytime they encountered one as a form of protests, I guess then we'd be OK....

They didn't run anyone off the road. Everything they did was legal and safe. They did deliberately all go to the same place, but there is nothing illegal about that - I mean they could have just been deciding they wanted to all see a particular street together.

That you can't see the difference between a cyclist stopping at a stop light, and a driver running a cyclist off the road, is telling.

Anonymous wrote:Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

I think almost every issue would be solved if bikes were kept to roads under 30 MPH which is basically all of DC

biking in the core of DC is the fastest option to get around the city

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

Oooooh... we’re sooooo scared of your threats!

+1

Stop slowing down traffic. You’re a f*cking nuisance.

Anonymous wrote:Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

Oooooh... we’re sooooo scared of your threats!

Hey drivers. I bike in DC, not Rockville pike or 495 or whatever. Trust me, I find the route that’s best for me. Safety is a huge piece of this. But sometimes that busy road is the best route for me. I don’t expect you’ll understand that unless you get out of your car and come join me for a ride or ten. Until then, slow down, pass when safe, and just calm down. We both have a right to the road.

BTW, I consider threats to run me over with your car to be in line with a threat to shoot someone. Think about whether you’re really willing to go down that route.

Anonymous wrote:
Perhaps, but I have long said that cyclists should designate one week and scrupulously follow all traffic laws. Take the lane, complete stop at all stop signs, etc. Just go on your regular route. The effect would be the same. And drivers would go up in flames.

you'd have dead cyclist, as a cyclist can't always maintain a safe speed on the road, they wuld be unable to follow the traffic laws and as such would be ticketed.... and as mentioned above, some road just don't have the space to allow bikes and cars to coexist safely, and never will. Chain bridge, canal road, Old Dominion, G-town pike just to name a few.

as a cyclist, while mayibf is "your right" to use the road, but you wouldn't go out on 495 or 66 or the GWP, why put yourself in these dangerous situations on two lane roads. getting hit by a truck mirror at 35mph won't be pretty.

Whenever I see a person riding a bike on Rockville Pike, I always think, "are they suicidal?"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeh bikes need to follow car road rules.

No. People who are riding bikes need to follow the laws for people who are riding bikes. Some of which are the same as the laws for people who are driving cars, and some of which are not the same as the laws for people who are driving cars.



Find out what the laws are for people who are riding bikes, before you complain that people who are riding bikes are not following the laws.

Obeying traffic lights and stop signs are good starting points.

You don't really want this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And somewhat intermediate is the case of "riding to rule". In SF a few years ago a particular cop ticketed riders for not coming to a full stop at stop sign on a popular bike route. As a protest, a big group of riders took that route, and came to an absolute, foot down, full stop, one at a time. It caused a major traffic backup, and the police decided to go easier on riders who only slowed at the stop sign.

not the best analogy, since they essentially overloaded the traffic system to make a point that they were above the law and didn't have to follow rules of the road. if drivers did the same thing and ran every cyclist off the road everytime they encountered one as a form of protests, I guess then we'd be OK...

and for the cyclst going 18mph. F U not all roads are flat. every morning a couple asshats pedal their way up the hill at chain bridge road after just cross the river. limit is 30. id venture to say that they could get off their bike and walk up the hill faster than they are pedaling. Some roads are just not designed with enough space to accommodate vehicles and bikes at the same time.

If the cyclist would just think about this "hmm, .Maybe this two lane road with no shoulder isn't the best place to cycle during rush hour, I should find a different safer route." but no....

Perhaps, but I have long said that cyclists should designate one week and scrupulously follow all traffic laws. Take the lane, complete stop at all stop signs, etc. Just go on your regular route. The effect would be the same. And drivers would go up in flames.

I'm so confused. We get posts all the time complaining that cyclists should follow all traffic laws.

But here, the cyclist *is following the law - s/he is entitled to take the lane. And apparently that's not OK?

Make up your mind.

Anonymous wrote:
And somewhat intermediate is the case of "riding to rule". In SF a few years ago a particular cop ticketed riders for not coming to a full stop at stop sign on a popular bike route. As a protest, a big group of riders took that route, and came to an absolute, foot down, full stop, one at a time. It caused a major traffic backup, and the police decided to go easier on riders who only slowed at the stop sign.

not the best analogy, since they essentially overloaded the traffic system to make a point that they were above the law and didn't have to follow rules of the road. if drivers did the same thing and ran every cyclist off the road everytime they encountered one as a form of protests, I guess then we'd be OK...

and for the cyclst going 18mph. F U not all roads are flat. every morning a couple asshats pedal their way up the hill at chain bridge road after just cross the river. limit is 30. id venture to say that they could get off their bike and walk up the hill faster than they are pedaling. Some roads are just not designed with enough space to accommodate vehicles and bikes at the same time.

If the cyclist would just think about this "hmm, .Maybe this two lane road with no shoulder isn't the best place to cycle during rush hour, I should find a different safer route." but no....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Use a car this is America not 3rd world Asia, bikes are 9th class citizens

Troll grade: F.

Yeah take a lesson from the guy who's posting while driving. B grade right there.