Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 18:02     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.


I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.



Lol
It's funny that you are stating your political affiliation, but I'll play.

I am a conservative Republican and I think the phone owner is a jerk if she accepts money. I stated in a previous post that if it was my kid, I'd offer to pay just to keep up neighborly relations, but I'd think a lot less of the phone owner if she accepted my money.


I agree, it's funny PP asked. And I am with you 10000% that I would offer to pay because it's the right thing to do but if the person took money from me, I'd think less of her.


(in case you missed it)
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 18:02     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
You should have a water proof phone or bag moron but the other person pays
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 18:01     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.


I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.



Lol
It's funny that you are stating your political affiliation, but I'll play.

I am a conservative Republican and I think the phone owner is a jerk if she accepts money. I stated in a previous post that if it was my kid, I'd offer to pay just to keep up neighborly relations, but I'd think a lot less of the phone owner if she accepted my money.


I agree, it's funny PP asked. And I am with you 10000% that I would offer to pay because it's the right thing to do but if the person took money from me, I'd think less of her.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:59     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:So I have a 2 year old and she'd 100% know it was wrong to throw my phone in the water. My 8 month old would easily throw it in and not know it was bad.

Mom's fault for having her phone at the pool and not in a pool case. We use our pool phone cases every time, even if the phone stays in the bag.

My almost 3 y.o. knows it's wrong to do things like throw a phone into the water (or throw his spaghetti on the floor), but he does the spaghetti thing anyway. He'd probably do the phone thing too, if he could. It's age appropriate for kids to be testing boundaries at his age...which is one of the reasons it's so exhausting to parent toddlers. I watch DS like a hawk around other people, and I did the same for my older DD, but they are fast and deliberate at this age so sometimes they do things you don't want them to.

I'd still pay for the phone, though.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:57     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.


I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.



Lol
It's funny that you are stating your political affiliation, but I'll play.

I am a conservative Republican and I think the phone owner is a jerk if she accepts money. I stated in a previous post that if it was my kid, I'd offer to pay just to keep up neighborly relations, but I'd think a lot less of the phone owner if she accepted my money.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:52     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My phone my fault

This. You guard you phone, for God’s sake.


Yep.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:52     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.


I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:50     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:My phone my fault

This. You guard you phone, for God’s sake.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:50     Subject: Re:Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:Any person who brings their phone within throwing distance of a body of water AND puts it down somewhere where she cannot grab it before a 2 year old, is responsible for doing so. When I am at the pool with my children, my phone goes into a bag when it is not in my hand. If I leave it out, even on a lounger where a running 2 year old could get to it, I am responsible for leaving it out.

Sorry, but you do something stupid you bear the risk.

That said, if my child did this, I would offer to pay or split the cost just as a courtesy, but I am not under any obligation to do so.


I agree
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:49     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would be mortified and offer to pay. I don't agree that setting your phone down next to a baby pool is asking to have it thrown in the pool. And even if it is, the parent of the child should still offer to pay. What do you people do if your child breaks something in a store, say, "Oh well they shouldn't have put jars down that low, not my problem" and flounce out, leaving a mess on the floor?

Actually, a bunch of you probably would.

Going in to a store, are you aware there are cans your child could access? Yes, because that is a reasonable expectation.
Going to a baby pool, are you aware there could be very expensive phones left poolside? No.

Your comparison falls flat.


I have been around baby pools for years (3 kids) with parents with phones and I have NEVER seen a kid throw a phone in the pool. Its not like the woman left her phone sitting poolside and wandered off - she was right there. I've seen people put there phones by the pool and usually another parent points it out and they grab their phone before an accident happens.

This is why I think when your kid throws the phone in the pool, it's on you. I know the kid is innocent and means no harm, but you are responsible. Things happen. Adults need to deal. And people who leave phones by the pool need to take some ownership for their poor choices too - turn down the new phone.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:44     Subject: Re:Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
If you are dumb enough to leave your phone on the edge of a baby pool don’t be surprised if it gets thrown in. Think of it as a stupidity tax.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:41     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:I would be mortified and offer to pay. I don't agree that setting your phone down next to a baby pool is asking to have it thrown in the pool. And even if it is, the parent of the child should still offer to pay. What do you people do if your child breaks something in a store, say, "Oh well they shouldn't have put jars down that low, not my problem" and flounce out, leaving a mess on the floor?

Actually, a bunch of you probably would.

Going in to a store, are you aware there are cans your child could access? Yes, because that is a reasonable expectation.
Going to a baby pool, are you aware there could be very expensive phones left poolside? No.

Your comparison falls flat.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:40     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
Anonymous wrote:I would be mortified and offer to pay. I don't agree that setting your phone down next to a baby pool is asking to have it thrown in the pool. And even if it is, the parent of the child should still offer to pay. What do you people do if your child breaks something in a store, say, "Oh well they shouldn't have put jars down that low, not my problem" and flounce out, leaving a mess on the floor?

Actually, a bunch of you probably would.


I think there is a difference between a BABY pool (where the main clientele is very young children) and a store.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:39     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2019 17:38     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool
What if she had set down some broken glass or something else obviously and immediately dangerous to kids, right where kids could grab it and a kid got hurt? Wouldn’t we be saying WTF was she doing with keeping that accessible to kids? Yes, parents should watch their kids closely, especiallu around water, but having an expensive phone on the ledge is not what a parent is watching out for. Only one adult knew that phone was there and needed to be safeguarded, and that’s the idiot who put it there in the first place.