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When I was looking for her quote, I found this on Lainey Gossip, which must have been reading my mind (and many others).

https://www.laineygossip.com/natalie-portman-denies-mobys-claims-that-the-two-dated-in-his-new-memoir/55723

+1. I agree with the Jessica Goldstein piece on Lainey Gossip.

"There is still, possibly, a way to salvage this, by demonstrating growth, as several men in the wake of the #MeToo movement have done. Instead, he posted a picture on Instagram that he thought constituted “proof” of his version of events but only made him look worse, what with him being shirtless and Natalie looking extremely young and not exactly comfortable (every woman will recognize that I’m-smiling-until-this-man-stops-touching-me expression on her face)"

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When I was looking for her quote, I found this on Lainey Gossip, which must have been reading my mind (and many others).

https://www.laineygossip.com/natalie-portman-denies-mobys-claims-that-the-two-dated-in-his-new-memoir/55723

+1. I agree with the Jessica Goldstein piece on Lainey Gossip.

Ugh this is how I felt when I learned Ryan Adams is a d-bag too.

Weaponizing MeToo to rewrite your embarrassing dating and partying history. What a class act.

I'm not a Natalie Portman fan (nor a Moby fan) but I still believe her side.

I've had instances where I've been friendly with a guy to the point where in his mind we were dating.

I also see "Throwback Thursday!" photos posted on Facebook and Instagram of me smiling with my rapist back in college. Most photos are from before the rape but some are from after, also no one posting those pics knows what happened. I'd hope that if I said something now that they wouldn't pull these photos out as proof that nothing happened since I was smiling in them.

He said he "tried to be her boyfriend." That's not the same as dating someone.

I'm so disappointed. I LOVE his music.

Anonymous wrote:It comes down to
He said they “dated.”
She says they didn’t “date.”

Honestly not many people care whether or not they did or didn’t. I’m into celebrity news, and this really doesn’t affect what I think of him or her.

Yep. Also, I wouldn't have known that Moby has a new book out if Natalie Portman hadn't gotten outraged about it. So there's that.

It comes down to
He said they “dated.”
She says they didn’t “date.”

Honestly not many people care whether or not they did or didn’t. I’m into celebrity news, and this really doesn’t affect what I think of him or her.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that he elided her age to 20 when she had just turned 18, according to the "facts" in his book, should cast doubt on his accuracy overall. I thought NP's comment about fact-checking and neither Moby nor the publisher reaching out to her to verify was a strong pushback.

18 19 and 20 are pretty interchangeable. An adult in college.

Jerry Seinfeld’s young toy was a 17 yo high schooler when he creeped on her in Central Park.

I think his getting her age wrong was purposeful, and not because those years are interchangeable. Look at what she actually says:

“I was surprised to hear that he characterised the very short time that I knew him as dating because my recollection is a much older man being creepy with me when I just had graduated high school,” Portman told us. “He said I was 20; I definitely wasn’t. I was a teenager. I had just turned 18. There was no fact checking from him or his publisher – it almost feels deliberate. That he used this story to sell his book was very disturbing to me. It wasn’t the case. There are many factual errors and inventions. I would have liked him or his publisher to reach out to fact check.”

Even when he pushed back with the photo, he put her age wrong, when that is verifiable. Who's the unreliable narrator, here? He also called her interview part of "gossip." She spoke directly, on the record, to Harper's Bazaar.

When I was looking for her quote, I found this on Lainey Gossip, which must have been reading my mind (and many others).

https://www.laineygossip.com/natalie-portman-denies-mobys-claims-that-the-two-dated-in-his-new-memoir/55723

This is it. Nothing more or less. He used the story to sell the book.

“She says”? Sweetie, everything she “said” was curated and blasted by a multi-million PR agency. Bless your heart for being so naive. Her career has stalled and she’s embarrassed about her younger self’s rave attending and dating history as she tries to segue into some wannabe perfect mother Gwyneth Paltrow lane.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that he elided her age to 20 when she had just turned 18, according to the "facts" in his book, should cast doubt on his accuracy overall. I thought NP's comment about fact-checking and neither Moby nor the publisher reaching out to her to verify was a strong pushback.

18 19 and 20 are pretty interchangeable. An adult in college.

Jerry Seinfeld’s young toy was a 17 yo high schooler when he creeped on her in Central Park.

I think his getting her age wrong was purposeful, and not because those years are interchangeable. Look at what she actually says:

“I was surprised to hear that he characterised the very short time that I knew him as dating because my recollection is a much older man being creepy with me when I just had graduated high school,” Portman told us. “He said I was 20; I definitely wasn’t. I was a teenager. I had just turned 18. There was no fact checking from him or his publisher – it almost feels deliberate. That he used this story to sell his book was very disturbing to me. It wasn’t the case. There are many factual errors and inventions. I would have liked him or his publisher to reach out to fact check.”

Even when he pushed back with the photo, he put her age wrong, when that is verifiable. Who's the unreliable narrator, here? He also called her interview part of "gossip." She spoke directly, on the record, to Harper's Bazaar.

When I was looking for her quote, I found this on Lainey Gossip, which must have been reading my mind (and many others).

https://www.laineygossip.com/natalie-portman-denies-mobys-claims-that-the-two-dated-in-his-new-memoir/55723

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how Jerry Seinfeld dating a 17 or 18 year old NYC high school senior when he was like 40 was spun to be no big deal.

Moby had a fling with a Harvard freshman from NYC and he’s the biggest creep predator in the world, he’s lying, blah blah.

Moby was A list famous during this fling. #1 song cross over song with Gwen Stefani. Don’t tell me the college freshman wasn’t getting off on dating him, at least at first. Sounds like she dumped him after she met a boy at Harvard.

1. Plenty of people did take issue with Jerry Seinfeld for that.

2. Natalie Portman isn’t from NYC.

3. Southside was released the year after he supposedly dated Portman.

DP. You don't consider Long Island to be NYC?

Literally no one but you does. NYC is New York CITY. Long Island is OUTSIDE of the City. It's literally a DIFFERENT ISLAND.

I got it. Long Island is not New York City. It's not a different island, though, it's the same island. Literally.

Literally no. Manhattan is its own island. You need to learn some geography.

This convo is bizarre. Reminds me of when I first moved to DC and multiple people here were assuring me "Alexandria was in DC"... I was so confused, pulled out a map... and then they all changed the story to "well if the angles continued straight instead of going along the river, Alexandria would be in DC" Perhaps this person believes an island is an island/all the same.

i am cracking up at this!!!
the angles even!

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A single date is not “dating.” Do you have any social skills at all?

It’s hollywood and rock stars, they all have more sexual partners than dates. Don’t be so naive.

I think she's rewriting history in the framework of me too. I mean, she did sign the infamous forgive Polanski letter.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think she is authentic even by Hollywood measure, nor is she a nice, likeable person, it makes it hard to believe her.

I don't like her, but I do believe her. I think, like others have said, they hung out a few times, but to her it wasn't dating, it was hanging out, to him it was dating. I doubt they did anything sexual.

I agree with all of this. But if she thought it was cool to hang out with a musician at the time, then she doesn't get to go back now, 20 years later, and say he was a creeper.

There's enough denial of women and girl's agency on this forum. She doesn't need to do it to herself, too.