Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:55
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
So, you're a racist if you don't want your kid to go to schools where 20% (or less) of the cohort can perform at grade level. Nucking Futs.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:50
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread just makes me want to move to Arlington.
- IB Lafayette, formerly IB Murch, location chosen solely for access to Wilson
What exactly are you afraid of? Do you honestly think your kid's outcomes will be measurably different if they have to cross to my side of the Park every day for school (which I don't think is likely, but still)?
I mean, if you want to move to VA, go ahead, but I'm just trying to understand what the fear is here.
Have you seen the PARCC scores? I think it’s not unreasonable to assume my kid won’t be at grade level, when his classmates aren’t at grade level. And for me, my kid demonstrating the skills he’s supposed to have (by testing at grade level) equates to a good outcome.
There are data to suggest that kids from affluent backgrounds do well even if they attend schools with large low SES populations. This has been discussed here a number of times here, but apparently the fear of lower SES classmates dragging down your kids still persists.
I don’t really agree with this based on personal experience. I went to an UMC suburban high school and then went to an Ivy for college. I was out of my depth, compared to students who came from prep schools. Schools matter.
DP, but the point is that you probably would have fared the same in college in terms of readiness if you came from a suburban high school with more economic and at-risk diversity. Comparing to kids coming from private is apples to oranges.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:48
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread just makes me want to move to Arlington.
- IB Lafayette, formerly IB Murch, location chosen solely for access to Wilson
What exactly are you afraid of? Do you honestly think your kid's outcomes will be measurably different if they have to cross to my side of the Park every day for school (which I don't think is likely, but still)?
I mean, if you want to move to VA, go ahead, but I'm just trying to understand what the fear is here.
Have you seen the PARCC scores? I think it’s not unreasonable to assume my kid won’t be at grade level, when his classmates aren’t at grade level. And for me, my kid demonstrating the skills he’s supposed to have (by testing at grade level) equates to a good outcome.
There are data to suggest that kids from affluent backgrounds do well even if they attend schools with large low SES populations. This has been discussed here a number of times here, but apparently the fear of lower SES classmates dragging down your kids still persists.
I don’t really agree with this based on personal experience. I went to an UMC suburban high school and then went to an Ivy for college. I was out of my depth, compared to students who came from prep schools. Schools matter.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:44
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread just makes me want to move to Arlington.
- IB Lafayette, formerly IB Murch, location chosen solely for access to Wilson
What exactly are you afraid of? Do you honestly think your kid's outcomes will be measurably different if they have to cross to my side of the Park every day for school (which I don't think is likely, but still)?
I mean, if you want to move to VA, go ahead, but I'm just trying to understand what the fear is here.
Have you seen the PARCC scores? I think it’s not unreasonable to assume my kid won’t be at grade level, when his classmates aren’t at grade level. And for me, my kid demonstrating the skills he’s supposed to have (by testing at grade level) equates to a good outcome.
There are data to suggest that kids from affluent backgrounds do well even if they attend schools with large low SES populations. This has been discussed here a number of times here, but apparently the fear of lower SES classmates dragging down your kids still persists.
Yes racism is deep-seared. Look at how bad people freaked out over integration. This is the same fear just 60-ish years later with the added veneer of low SES.
Except people EOTO are trying to get into Wilson.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:42
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Look Lafayette will be joining Shepherd at Ida Wells. Only moving Shepherd out of Deal is silly because only 40 kids at most go to Deal. 40 kids is nothing. Moving all Ward 4 schools to Wells make perfect sense and will definitely reduce numbers.
A big chunk of Lafayette is in Ward 3.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:40
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread just makes me want to move to Arlington.
- IB Lafayette, formerly IB Murch, location chosen solely for access to Wilson
What exactly are you afraid of? Do you honestly think your kid's outcomes will be measurably different if they have to cross to my side of the Park every day for school (which I don't think is likely, but still)?
I mean, if you want to move to VA, go ahead, but I'm just trying to understand what the fear is here.
Have you seen the PARCC scores? I think it’s not unreasonable to assume my kid won’t be at grade level, when his classmates aren’t at grade level. And for me, my kid demonstrating the skills he’s supposed to have (by testing at grade level) equates to a good outcome.
There are data to suggest that kids from affluent backgrounds do well even if they attend schools with large low SES populations. This has been discussed here a number of times here, but apparently the fear of lower SES classmates dragging down your kids still persists.
Yes racism is deep-seared. Look at how bad people freaked out over integration. This is the same fear just 60-ish years later with the added veneer of low SES.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 15:38
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
So now at least one Maury booster full of themselves enough to think they get rights over every other school? So you think you're Brent community now
SH is doing just fine without you.
Yes. Plus, the Cluster, Ludlow-Taylor and JO Wilson (which feed currently) are closer than all of those listed above, to SH.
I don't necessarily think Maury should feed to S-H, but this discussion of proximity is ridiculous. Tyler, Payne and Miner are all farther away than Maury. Maury is equidistant to S-H with Brent. While Peabody is of course very close to S-H, Watkins is farther away than Maury and Brent. It's silly not to acknowledge the gerrymandered cluster boundary in this discussion of boundary review. Ideally there would be two Hill middle schools, with either a north south or an east west boundary, and the cluster should be broken up. Having Hill elementaries feed to 3 middle schools with 2 underenrolled is a waste of resources.
Watkins itself may be further away but kids live within the entire Cluster boundary, regardless of so-called gerrymandering. Plus, Maury boundary isn't any closer to SH than JOW or the Cluster boundaries (It's inside LT boundary). Or for than matter, Miner's western boundary.
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1348806.
Here is the prior year since Maury isn't shown above because of the swing space:
https://dme.dc.gov/node/1267916
Again, I didn't say Maury should feed to SH just that I think the middle school feeder patterns and boundaries are problematic because they result in underutilized resources. JOW should certainly feed to SH based on proximity. The clearly gerrymandered cluster boundary screws things up and I believe it should be redrawn in the next review. Maury should probably feed to E-H, but so should half of the cluster boundary.
No, it shouldn't. ECE in a separate location (including mandatory K) justifies a shuttle between Watkins and Peabody and proximity to Peabody that also allows SH families to manage siblings across the feed. If Brent ever starts sending enough students to Jefferson they could make a strong case for a similar setup. Maury is close enough to Eliot Hine that it wouldn't be necessary
Peabody K in a separate building is the reason for the Cluster feeder pattern, not some nefarious "gerrymandering"
That's a circular argument. Peabody ECE could feed to a different, closer, school. Brent, for example, is becoming increasingly overcrowded.
Sure - the world could revolve around Brent
, or Brent can solve that problem by eliminating PK3. Peabody serves 227 students - more than half of Brent's full enrollment.Peabody-Watkins is one of the largest DCPS elementary schools. Only Lafayette, Janney and Oyster-Adams are larger and those don't have PK3. That's a lot of children to shift around if the feed would change.