Anonymous
04/17/2019 11:45
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Oh and I forgot to add that the ECNL & DA subbing rules are different. And dont' forget that DA 04 and 05 subbing rules are different also.
Too many asumptions to rank next years teams.
Too many asumptions to rank next years teams.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 11:39
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Enough with the past. Let's do the present.
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
OK VDA or FCV PR, let's read between the lines and ask some basic questions.. This presupposes all of these teams rosters stay the same, puberty is done and over with for all girls, right? couldn't be a worse age group then 04s and 05s to try to assume consistency from this year to next.
You have definitely ranked these from top to bottom, but why list FOUR 04s when you just wrote "Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year."?
BRYCs (37 points) record so far at 04 betters VDAs (27 points) with a 4 point differential and each head to head matchups have both resulted in draw. But VDA ranks alongside Arlington, but above BRYC.. OK... when was the last time VDA04 played Arlington 04? I don't see it in youthsoccerrankings.
05s? How many times has VDA 05 played DA teams? Not that many
Anonymous
04/17/2019 11:18
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL/ DA are about getting recruited, here is how every club is doing in recruiting age groups.
FCV
19/18- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
17/16- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
BRYC
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
McLean
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
VDA
19s- Last Place in Conference
17s Last place in Conference
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
Loudoun
19s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
17s Did not qualify for National Playoffs
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
WSVA
19/18- Currently not qualifying for Nationals playoffs
17/16- Last place in Conference
McLean and Bryc older teams (03 and above) were uneffected by the whole ECNL to DA exodus. Thats why they are successful. However, you must look at the current trend (04 and below) to see the true trajectory of a club. Hanging your hat on the old guard is short sighted.
Larry Best is gone from BRYC. Clyde Watson may retire and leave McLean.
Big shoes to fill.
VDA 02 and above never took off for the girls. Their 03 group could have been decent but they lost talent when VDA left DA for ECNL. VDA 04 and below is what you should be watching to determine the trajectory.
Loudoun will always have a FCV problem...unless ECNL wins out.
Question was about 06. VDA has the top 06 team in the area. They’re weak in recruiting ages. None of this is news.
The key is to be on a good team your 9th, 10th, and 11th grade year because college is the end game.
Next year the 05s are 8th and 9th graders
04s are 9th and 10th graders (prime).
The 03s are 10th and 11th graders (prime).
The 02's have tapped out.
Look at the 03's - 05's at any given club. If you daughter is a 9th grade 05 next year, get her on the strongest 05 team that will showcase her talent if college is the end game....etc.
This may go without saying, but if your DD is a goalkeeper, you might want her on a weaker team. Many more opportunities to be involved in the play and showcase saves etc.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:58
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Enough with the past. Let's do the present.
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
FCV and Arlington are not ECNL clubs. This is an ECNL thread. The answer is whichever elite club gives your kid a chance to start and shine. If your kid is riding the pine for any of the mentioned clubs, it doesn’t help their chances.
No duh Sherlock Holmes.
However, with so many options, it's good to compare the teams in various clubs to see how they stack up... regardless of league. If you want to talk just ECNL for next year recruiting years then let's do it.
Ok doofus. Re-read the portion about finding the best fit for your DD. If they are getting good training and starting, that’s the best option. Specific club and results don’t matter to college coaches, only parent egos
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:52
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL/ DA are about getting recruited, here is how every club is doing in recruiting age groups.
FCV
19/18- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
17/16- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
BRYC
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
McLean
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
VDA
19s- Last Place in Conference
17s Last place in Conference
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
Loudoun
19s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
17s Did not qualify for National Playoffs
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
WSVA
19/18- Currently not qualifying for Nationals playoffs
17/16- Last place in Conference
Cool
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:51
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Enough with the past. Let's do the present.
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
FCV and Arlington are not ECNL clubs. This is an ECNL thread. The answer is whichever elite club gives your kid a chance to start and shine. If your kid is riding the pine for any of the mentioned clubs, it doesn’t help their chances.
No duh Sherlock Holmes.
However, with so many options, it's good to compare the teams in various clubs to see how they stack up... regardless of league. If you want to talk just ECNL for next year recruiting years then let's do it.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:51
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would argue that based on ranked teams, players playing at major DI programs and coaching talent that McLean and Bethesda are probably the best programs.
BRYC’s portfolio of D1 players past and future is very impressive too.
Relative to McLean's its not that impressive IMO
The 2014 class certainly was impressive and the 03s have the potential for similar, but beyond that its OK but nothing special.
BRYC lost their best 04 forward to spirit. They’re losing several others in the age group too. After 03, BRYC is not looking too hot. McLean will always have an influx of players at U16/17. Loudoun seems to struggle across the board.
London’s younger ECNL is doing GREAT.
06's doing good. 07's will be fine also next year.
Transition to 11v11 might be tougher than you think. Your goalie won’t be able to punt it to the other goalie.
Loudoun focuses on building up from the back, not punting. Of course there are some occasions they do punt, but not most of the time. Punting at this age is not the right thing to do
I think it’s situational. If you have an opponent that is pressing up and has lots of pressure on the backs, it may make more sense to get the ball over their heads to your waiting midfielders and forwards, where you have a numerical advantage, instead of rolling it out to your outnumbered/pressured outside back. The converse may be true if the opponent plays further off and softer. I’d rather see my keeper use their wits to pick the best action instead of blindly picking and sticking with a single action, whether a toss to a back or punt. There’s typically no “right” or “wrong” way to play, but there are situational trade-offs.
At younger ages, punting is never a good idea unless you're obsessed with results. Handling pressure building out of the back is a skill that takes a long time to develop to a high level. You will give up goals, you will lose games. But if you're playing for results at U12, then you are part of the reason soccer in the country is falling further and further behind the rest of the world.
Disagreed. There are plenty of ways to learn to handle pressure without making a stupid decision. The mental part of the game is more important and punting when prudent isn’t the reason the US men are behind the rest of the world.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:41
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would argue that based on ranked teams, players playing at major DI programs and coaching talent that McLean and Bethesda are probably the best programs.
BRYC’s portfolio of D1 players past and future is very impressive too.
Relative to McLean's its not that impressive IMO
The 2014 class certainly was impressive and the 03s have the potential for similar, but beyond that its OK but nothing special.
BRYC lost their best 04 forward to spirit. They’re losing several others in the age group too. After 03, BRYC is not looking too hot. McLean will always have an influx of players at U16/17. Loudoun seems to struggle across the board.
London’s younger ECNL is doing GREAT.
06's doing good. 07's will be fine also next year.
Transition to 11v11 might be tougher than you think. Your goalie won’t be able to punt it to the other goalie.
Loudoun focuses on building up from the back, not punting. Of course there are some occasions they do punt, but not most of the time. Punting at this age is not the right thing to do
I think it’s situational. If you have an opponent that is pressing up and has lots of pressure on the backs, it may make more sense to get the ball over their heads to your waiting midfielders and forwards, where you have a numerical advantage, instead of rolling it out to your outnumbered/pressured outside back. The converse may be true if the opponent plays further off and softer. I’d rather see my keeper use their wits to pick the best action instead of blindly picking and sticking with a single action, whether a toss to a back or punt. There’s typically no “right” or “wrong” way to play, but there are situational trade-offs.
At younger ages, punting is never a good idea unless you're obsessed with results. Handling pressure building out of the back is a skill that takes a long time to develop to a high level. You will give up goals, you will lose games. But if you're playing for results at U12, then you are part of the reason soccer in the country is falling further and further behind the rest of the world.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 10:04
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Enough with the past. Let's do the present.
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
FCV and Arlington are not ECNL clubs. This is an ECNL thread. The answer is whichever elite club gives your kid a chance to start and shine. If your kid is riding the pine for any of the mentioned clubs, it doesn’t help their chances.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 09:57
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would argue that based on ranked teams, players playing at major DI programs and coaching talent that McLean and Bethesda are probably the best programs.
BRYC’s portfolio of D1 players past and future is very impressive too.
Relative to McLean's its not that impressive IMO
The 2014 class certainly was impressive and the 03s have the potential for similar, but beyond that its OK but nothing special.
BRYC lost their best 04 forward to spirit. They’re losing several others in the age group too. After 03, BRYC is not looking too hot. McLean will always have an influx of players at U16/17. Loudoun seems to struggle across the board.
London’s younger ECNL is doing GREAT.
06's doing good. 07's will be fine also next year.
Transition to 11v11 might be tougher than you think. Your goalie won’t be able to punt it to the other goalie.
Loudoun focuses on building up from the back, not punting. Of course there are some occasions they do punt, but not most of the time. Punting at this age is not the right thing to do
I think it’s situational. If you have an opponent that is pressing up and has lots of pressure on the backs, it may make more sense to get the ball over their heads to your waiting midfielders and forwards, where you have a numerical advantage, instead of rolling it out to your outnumbered/pressured outside back. The converse may be true if the opponent plays further off and softer. I’d rather see my keeper use their wits to pick the best action instead of blindly picking and sticking with a single action, whether a toss to a back or punt. There’s typically no “right” or “wrong” way to play, but there are situational trade-offs.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 09:57
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Enough with the past. Let's do the present.
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
Rank the top three 2019-2020 04, 05 NOVA teams for next year.
04 (recruitment years)
FCV
ARLINGTON /VDA
BRYC
05 (1/2 recruitment year)
FCV
VDA
ARLINGTON
Anonymous
04/17/2019 09:12
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would argue that based on ranked teams, players playing at major DI programs and coaching talent that McLean and Bethesda are probably the best programs.
BRYC’s portfolio of D1 players past and future is very impressive too.
Relative to McLean's its not that impressive IMO
The 2014 class certainly was impressive and the 03s have the potential for similar, but beyond that its OK but nothing special.
BRYC lost their best 04 forward to spirit. They’re losing several others in the age group too. After 03, BRYC is not looking too hot. McLean will always have an influx of players at U16/17. Loudoun seems to struggle across the board.
London’s younger ECNL is doing GREAT.
06's doing good. 07's will be fine also next year.
Transition to 11v11 might be tougher than you think. Your goalie won’t be able to punt it to the other goalie.
Loudoun focuses on building up from the back, not punting. Of course there are some occasions they do punt, but not most of the time. Punting at this age is not the right thing to do
Anonymous
04/16/2019 22:52
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL/ DA are about getting recruited, here is how every club is doing in recruiting age groups.
FCV
19/18- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
17/16- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
BRYC
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
McLean
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
VDA
19s- Last Place in Conference
17s Last place in Conference
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
Loudoun
19s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
17s Did not qualify for National Playoffs
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
WSVA
19/18- Currently not qualifying for Nationals playoffs
17/16- Last place in Conference
McLean and Bryc older teams (03 and above) were uneffected by the whole ECNL to DA exodus. Thats why they are successful. However, you must look at the current trend (04 and below) to see the true trajectory of a club. Hanging your hat on the old guard is short sighted.
Larry Best is gone from BRYC. Clyde Watson may retire and leave McLean.
Big shoes to fill.
VDA 02 and above never took off for the girls. Their 03 group could have been decent but they lost talent when VDA left DA for ECNL. VDA 04 and below is what you should be watching to determine the trajectory.
Loudoun will always have a FCV problem...unless ECNL wins out.
Question was about 06. VDA has the top 06 team in the area. They’re weak in recruiting ages. None of this is news.
The key is to be on a good team your 9th, 10th, and 11th grade year because college is the end game.
Next year the 05s are 8th and 9th graders
04s are 9th and 10th graders (prime).
The 03s are 10th and 11th graders (prime).
The 02's have tapped out.
Look at the 03's - 05's at any given club. If you daughter is a 9th grade 05 next year, get her on the strongest 05 team that will showcase her talent if college is the end game....etc.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 21:59
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL/ DA are about getting recruited, here is how every club is doing in recruiting age groups.
FCV
19/18- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
17/16- Currently Qualifying for National playoffs
BRYC
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
McLean
19s- Qualified for National Playoffs
17s- Qualified for National Playoffs
16s- Qualified for National Playoffs
VDA
19s- Last Place in Conference
17s Last place in Conference
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
Loudoun
19s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
17s Did not qualify for National Playoffs
16s- Did not Qualify for National Playoffs
WSVA
19/18- Currently not qualifying for Nationals playoffs
17/16- Last place in Conference
McLean and Bryc older teams (03 and above) were uneffected by the whole ECNL to DA exodus. Thats why they are successful. However, you must look at the current trend (04 and below) to see the true trajectory of a club. Hanging your hat on the old guard is short sighted.
Larry Best is gone from BRYC. Clyde Watson may retire and leave McLean.
Big shoes to fill.
VDA 02 and above never took off for the girls. Their 03 group could have been decent but they lost talent when VDA left DA for ECNL. VDA 04 and below is what you should be watching to determine the trajectory.
Loudoun will always have a FCV problem...unless ECNL wins out.
Question was about 06. VDA has the top 06 team in the area. They’re weak in recruiting ages. None of this is news.
Anonymous
04/16/2019 20:53
Subject: Best regional ECNL Programs
Next year (Big recruitment year)
U16 ECNL (04)
VDA
BRYC
LOUDOUN
MCLEAN
U16 DA (04)
FCV
ARL
SPIRIT (LAST IN CONFERENCE)
U16 ECNL (04)
VDA
BRYC
LOUDOUN
MCLEAN
U16 DA (04)
FCV
ARL
SPIRIT (LAST IN CONFERENCE)