Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is only admitting 99%-tile kids, then it is unlikely that that population has exploded to the same extent. I agree the program should be expanded. It should also be made made continuous ie once you are in you should only leave if you fail out and there should be entry years where you can test on along the way. For the über gifted there can be special programs but smart hardworking kids shouldn’t have to compete for advanced work

We’ll never know, they stopped reporting cogat scores of admits last year when they remade the selection criteria. Who knows what the bar is now—90%, 95%, 99%??

Either way for a “top school district” with a large portion of the most educated parents in the country, mcps only having G&T seats for less than 1% of its student body is pretty pathetic. And telling of the Admins priorities and share of mind (ie. It ain’t on high performers).

For CES programs, it's more than 1%. Probably north of 5%. There are 9 regional CES programs, and if each has only 2 CES classes per grade (ours has 3) with 28 kids each, that's 504 seats. Assuming the 162K students in the system are evenly distributed across K-12, that's about 12,500 per grade. The regional CES programs cover 4% of kids in each grade, more if you count the local centers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that the people pushing for more classroom segregation are often the ones talking about mixing the buildings the most. As if the ideas of mixing class rooms are toxic but mixing the buildings provides magic benefits. Or as if putting high achievers off to the side as to not be affected by the plebeians is noble in academics but immoral for SES academics.

Your desire to keep your child untethered is no different than the W’s desire, and poor kids and the education gap could be helped by just mixing kids by age and letting the rest fall where it may. But on the same token we have to be honest that the collective is help back by the weight of the needy and inept.

Truth

This is borderline incomprehensible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is only admitting 99%-tile kids, then it is unlikely that that population has exploded to the same extent. I agree the program should be expanded. It should also be made made continuous ie once you are in you should only leave if you fail out and there should be entry years where you can test on along the way. For the über gifted there can be special programs but smart hardworking kids shouldn’t have to compete for advanced work

We’ll never know, they stopped reporting cogat scores of admits last year when they remade the selection criteria. Who knows what the bar is now—90%, 95%, 99%??

Either way for a “top school district” with a large portion of the most educated parents in the country, mcps only having G&T seats for less than 1% of its student body is pretty pathetic. And telling of the Admins priorities and share of mind (ie. It ain’t on high performers).

Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that the people pushing for more classroom segregation are often the ones talking about mixing the buildings the most. As if the ideas of mixing class rooms are toxic but mixing the buildings provides magic benefits. Or as if putting high achievers off to the side as to not be affected by the plebeians is noble in academics but immoral for SES academics.

Your desire to keep your child untethered is no different than the W’s desire, and poor kids and the education gap could be helped by just mixing kids by age and letting the rest fall where it may. But on the same token we have to be honest that the collective is help back by the weight of the needy and inept.

Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is only admitting 99%-tile kids, then it is unlikely that that population has exploded to the same extent. I agree the program should be expanded. It should also be made made continuous ie once you are in you should only leave if you fail out and there should be entry years where you can test on along the way. For the über gifted there can be special programs but smart hardworking kids shouldn’t have to compete for advanced work

Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is only admitting 99%-tile kids, then it is unlikely that that population has exploded to the same extent. I agree the program should be expanded. It should also be made made continuous ie once you are in you should only leave if you fail out and there should be entry years where you can test on along the way. For the über gifted there can be special programs but smart hardworking kids shouldn’t have to compete for advanced work

Anonymous wrote:I think what it comes down to is this - there are kids who are high achievers who are just outside this CES bucket (for whatever reason) and are grossly under-served by MCPS. So what are the options:
1> Expand these CES type programs - unlikely to happen especially with the current school board who are focused on other issues! Serving the top quartile of kids is the LOWEST priority for them.
2> Private School - not an option for many of us!
3> Enrichment at home actively engaging the kids, museum visits, theatre etc. Sure!
But does it need to be more organized? It is very hard for a parent to figure out what level of math/reading/writing supplementing to do by themselves. And so we are back to looking at places like Kumon/Dr Li/ etc etc. Makes me cringe but how else do you get these kids to aim for higher.

Anonymous wrote:I think what it comes down to is this - there are kids who are high achievers who are just outside this CES bucket (for whatever reason) and are grossly under-served by MCPS. So what are the options:
1> Expand these CES type programs - unlikely to happen especially with the current school board who are focused on other issues! Serving the top quartile of kids is the LOWEST priority for them.
2> Private School - not an option for many of us!
3> Enrichment at home actively engaging the kids, museum visits, theatre etc. Sure!
But does it need to be more organized? It is very hard for a parent to figure out what level of math/reading/writing supplementing to do by themselves. And so we are back to looking at places like Kumon/Dr Li/ etc etc. Makes me cringe but how else do you get these kids to aim for higher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that the people pushing for more classroom segregation are often the ones talking about mixing the buildings the most. As if the ideas of mixing class rooms are toxic but mixing the buildings provides magic benefits. Or as if putting high achievers off to the side as to not be affected by the plebeians is noble in academics but immoral for SES academics.

Your desire to keep your child untethered is no different than the W’s desire, and poor kids and the education gap could be helped by just mixing kids by age and letting the rest fall where it may. But on the same token we have to be honest that the collective is help back by the weight of the needy and inept.

Truth

Anonymous wrote:I think what it comes down to is this - there are kids who are high achievers who are just outside this CES bucket (for whatever reason) and are grossly under-served by MCPS. So what are the options:
1> Expand these CES type programs - unlikely to happen especially with the current school board who are focused on other issues! Serving the top quartile of kids is the LOWEST priority for them.
2> Private School - not an option for many of us!
3> Enrichment at home actively engaging the kids, museum visits, theatre etc. Sure!
But does it need to be more organized? It is very hard for a parent to figure out what level of math/reading/writing supplementing to do by themselves. And so we are back to looking at places like Kumon/Dr Li/ etc etc. Makes me cringe but how else do you get these kids to aim for higher.

Anonymous wrote:I find it ironic that the people pushing for more classroom segregation are often the ones talking about mixing the buildings the most. As if the ideas of mixing class rooms are toxic but mixing the buildings provides magic benefits. Or as if putting high achievers off to the side as to not be affected by the plebeians is noble in academics but immoral for SES academics.

Your desire to keep your child untethered is no different than the W’s desire, and poor kids and the education gap could be helped by just mixing kids by age and letting the rest fall where it may. But on the same token we have to be honest that the collective is help back by the weight of the needy and inept.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids who didn’t get in to be gracious. DC got in and BF didn’t, and BF kept saying the program was for “nerds” who “don’t have friends.” Really?

Our school all learned the word CRAPSHOOT and SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR. We hope CES can help solve the achievement gap.