Anonymous wrote:I think the question was "instead of church". Right? You don't want any organized stuff, you want just some spiritual experience?
How about sunsets, trees, rain, cosmos.. the grand scheme of things, the leaf, the fish, the rabit, the baceria, the atom, the energy of fire the cold of the ice.. the pattern on the tiger, the hair on your head, the death and the birth of living things. . whatever the force is behind it,something is and you can recognize it with your soul, the beauty of it, the magnificence, the love and the life as a whole?
The Divine is in every person and it guides them to recognize the Divine outside of the person, it is omnipresent and runs through everything like a river.

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Unitarian Church? Seriously, I just drove by one near where I live and the sign outside said this is what we believe: the it said "Love is love," Black Lives Matter;" something about immigration, gender equality -- I was driving too fast to catch them all, but none of the statements were "religious."

I agree about looking into a Unitarian Universalist (UU) congregation. Here are their 7 Principles:

1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

Those are the ones that illegal immigrants go hide and live in when they are called for deportation in Maryland or DC.

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Anonymous wrote:The hate and bigotry shown by the atheist starting all the anti-Christian threads today? Oh wait, nobody wants that for their kids.

+1 And it's always passionate anti-Christian hatred, never hatred for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Wicca, etc. It bodes well with the whole anti-Christian narrative in the media. Every 5-6 months we get passionate Christian haters on this forum starting numerous threads against Christians. It's become almost a cliche.

Really ?-- more like NON-Christian

Yeah, but Christians are so accustomed to being in charge that anything non-Christian seems anti-christian.

Plus, the other religions mentioned don't go around sanctimoniously telling people that they are going to burn forever in hell for not believing in their religion.

Some other religions kill you if you are in their territory and don't accept their religious law. Why don't you move there if you find it so oppressive here?
But aside from that, no one is forcing you to listen to what Christians have to say. You can simply do or adhere to those other religions or to none at all.
Stop demonizing Christianity because that's currently in vogue.

And no one is forcing you to listen to what non-religious people have to say - or forcing you to tell them that they will be going to hell because they don't believe in Jesus.

+1,000. The behavior of many Christians in this country is laughable. Why do you so strongly desire to feel persecuted in a country where you make up the vast majority, and have used your majority to actively suppress atheists and people of different faiths? You don’t think nothing of attacking Muslims as violent, or atheists as immoral and unfit for public office (even though you elected one- joke’s on you). You don’t hesitate to drive your own gay kids to suicide. Unless they’re black or abortion doctors, Christians don’t have to worry about getting shot up when they go to a church. So what people say mean things about you. You’re in a free country. You’re free to leave for some place where they throw Christians to the lions.

Would you mind please telling which House of Worship, or ethical society you attend?

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Anonymous wrote:The hate and bigotry shown by the atheist starting all the anti-Christian threads today? Oh wait, nobody wants that for their kids.

+1 And it's always passionate anti-Christian hatred, never hatred for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Wicca, etc. It bodes well with the whole anti-Christian narrative in the media. Every 5-6 months we get passionate Christian haters on this forum starting numerous threads against Christians. It's become almost a cliche.

Really ?-- more like NON-Christian

Yeah, but Christians are so accustomed to being in charge that anything non-Christian seems anti-christian.

Plus, the other religions mentioned don't go around sanctimoniously telling people that they are going to burn forever in hell for not believing in their religion.

Some other religions kill you if you are in their territory and don't accept their religious law. Why don't you move there if you find it so oppressive here?
But aside from that, no one is forcing you to listen to what Christians have to say. You can simply do or adhere to those other religions or to none at all.
Stop demonizing Christianity because that's currently in vogue.

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Anonymous wrote:The hate and bigotry shown by the atheist starting all the anti-Christian threads today? Oh wait, nobody wants that for their kids.

+1 And it's always passionate anti-Christian hatred, never hatred for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Wicca, etc. It bodes well with the whole anti-Christian narrative in the media. Every 5-6 months we get passionate Christian haters on this forum starting numerous threads against Christians. It's become almost a cliche.

Really ?-- more like NON-Christian

Yeah, but Christians are so accustomed to being in charge that anything non-Christian seems anti-christian.

Plus, the other religions mentioned don't go around sanctimoniously telling people that they are going to burn forever in hell for not believing in their religion.

Some other religions kill you if you are in their territory and don't accept their religious law. Why don't you move there if you find it so oppressive here?
But aside from that, no one is forcing you to listen to what Christians have to say. You can simply do or adhere to those other religions or to none at all.
Stop demonizing Christianity because that's currently in vogue.

And no one is forcing you to listen to what non-religious people have to say - or forcing you to tell them that they will be going to hell because they don't believe in Jesus.

+1,000. The behavior of many Christians in this country is laughable. Why do you so strongly desire to feel persecuted in a country where you make up the vast majority, and have used your majority to actively suppress atheists and people of different faiths? You don’t think nothing of attacking Muslims as violent, or atheists as immoral and unfit for public office (even though you elected one- joke’s on you). You don’t hesitate to drive your own gay kids to suicide. Unless they’re black or abortion doctors, Christians don’t have to worry about getting shot up when they go to a church. So what people say mean things about you. You’re in a free country. You’re free to leave for some place where they throw Christians to the lions.

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Anonymous wrote:The hate and bigotry shown by the atheist starting all the anti-Christian threads today? Oh wait, nobody wants that for their kids.

+1 And it's always passionate anti-Christian hatred, never hatred for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Wicca, etc. It bodes well with the whole anti-Christian narrative in the media. Every 5-6 months we get passionate Christian haters on this forum starting numerous threads against Christians. It's become almost a cliche.

Really ?-- more like NON-Christian

Yeah, but Christians are so accustomed to being in charge that anything non-Christian seems anti-christian.

Plus, the other religions mentioned don't go around sanctimoniously telling people that they are going to burn forever in hell for not believing in their religion.

Some other religions kill you if you are in their territory and don't accept their religious law. Why don't you move there if you find it so oppressive here?
But aside from that, no one is forcing you to listen to what Christians have to say. You can simply do or adhere to those other religions or to none at all.
Stop demonizing Christianity because that's currently in vogue.

Cue the Christian victims...

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Anonymous wrote:I’m secular but DD keeps asking to go to church and tells people we pray (we don’t but her very religious grandparents do). It seems like she’s looking for some type of structure and I’m sure the church thing sounds fun from the description from the other kids in her class. For a variety of reasons, I’m am no longer religious but want to give my kids some tradition, routines and social network with a strong value and strong community outside of school. We have a good community in our neighborhood, etc but I’m looking for something more. Any ideas?

Unitarian Church? Seriously, I just drove by one near where I live and the sign outside said this is what we believe: the it said "Love is love," Black Lives Matter;" something about immigration, gender equality -- I was driving too fast to catch them all, but none of the statements were "religious."

I love the IDEA of UUs, and I agree 100% with the statements. But I agree, it feels like it has become some sort of activist for the underdogs -- like, the manifestation of progressivism (again, which I actually am in alignment with) vs. spirituality in itself

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Unitarian Church? Seriously, I just drove by one near where I live and the sign outside said this is what we believe: the it said "Love is love," Black Lives Matter;" something about immigration, gender equality -- I was driving too fast to catch them all, but none of the statements were "religious."

I agree about looking into a Unitarian Universalist (UU) congregation. Here are their 7 Principles:

1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

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Can you tell me more? Is there a community with some type of gathering?

I do mindfulness stuff with her, and she seems receptive to that.