Anonymous wrote:See you around OP! We are also staying at Seaton for K. We had an offer at a different charter and are passing it up. I'm looking forward to another great year! And to getting more involved in the school going forward.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
Sorry. I want to be clear. I was referring to families that pass BH and choose to lottery for Seaton because it’s the next “hot” thing even though every measure shows it’s a mediocre school. If it’s your IB school, more power to you.
Thanks PP.. What is it that you like so much about Bunker Hill, aside from the scores? Because the scores don't count things like facility, outdoor space, special programming, overall feel, etc.
Tbh I think Seaton's enviable bus and metro proximity is a huge part of the appeal. That and the ability (for now) to get in as an OOB PK3.
There are people that live across the street from BH and still lottery for 3 star schools so metro access isn’t a draw. Same for Burroughs that scores WAY higher than Seaton. But I get it, black kids are scary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
Sorry. I want to be clear. I was referring to families that pass BH and choose to lottery for Seaton because it’s the next “hot” thing even though every measure shows it’s a mediocre school. If it’s your IB school, more power to you.
Thanks PP.. What is it that you like so much about Bunker Hill, aside from the scores? Because the scores don't count things like facility, outdoor space, special programming, overall feel, etc.
Tbh I think Seaton's enviable bus and metro proximity is a huge part of the appeal. That and the ability (for now) to get in as an OOB PK3.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
Sorry. I want to be clear. I was referring to families that pass BH and choose to lottery for Seaton because it’s the next “hot” thing even though every measure shows it’s a mediocre school. If it’s your IB school, more power to you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
I think the point isn’t that you should consider Bunker Hill, but that nobody in their right mind (according to DCUM conventional wisdom) would choose BH over ITS. It is frequently pointed out that the only apparent reason some parents choose some supposedly mediocre schools is their high percentage of white students. I’m not sure if that’s fair in this case because I think BH May score well in stars but not in raw scores. ?
But someone would chose ITS if they preferred ITS middle over Brookland Middle/taking their chances. And the way ITS has a student teacher in each classroom all the way up, so the student-teacher ratio is much better, that's just worlds apart. And the educational philosophy is much different (I'm not saying it's better but it really is different). And the commute to ITS from the Seaton area is much better than to BH.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
I think the point isn’t that you should consider Bunker Hill, but that nobody in their right mind (according to DCUM conventional wisdom) would choose BH over ITS. It is frequently pointed out that the only apparent reason some parents choose some supposedly mediocre schools is their high percentage of white students. I’m not sure if that’s fair in this case because I think BH May score well in stars but not in raw scores. ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Look, I am happy for Bunker Hill that it did well! That is an impressive showing, especially for a school that lacks a desirable middle school. But for people living IB for Seaton, which is to say I live on 8th NW, Bunker Hill just isn't a commute I'm going to take on for a school that doesn't have foreign language or an appealing middle school. I would be surprised if the lower elementary cohort performance is that different between Seaton and Bunker Hill, and I am willing to wait and see how Seaton changes academically. I like that Seaton is a little bigger, and I love that we walking to Seaton. So I wish you and Bunker Hill well, but really, I don't see that it would be an upgrade for a lower elementary child to justify the commute.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
White people gonna white people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Nope. The star report system measures everything same way. What measure do you not ageee with? Growth? PARCC scores adjusted for demographics? Retention? What exactly? Please be specific.
Many schools have such a small testing population (because not all kids take the PARCC and the scores are only reported for kids who start the school year near the beginning) that one or two kids can swing the numbers considerably from year to year. Reporting only one year of data also makes it less meaningful.
Gentrifying schools like Seaton are demographically different in different grade levels and the performance of younger cohorts are probably well above the performance of upper elementary at Seaton.
Seaton takes OOB preschoolers who didn't get into their IB preschool (such as Ross) and that pulls down the retention stats because those kids leave for K at the latest. But I don't think it really reflects negatively on Seaton. It's unfortunate that DCPS wants to expand preschool capacity yet penalizes schools in this metric for offering OOB children a seat.
Seaton has 170 more kids than BH. They have about same at risk. The only difference I see between the schools is that Seaton is only 35% black and BH is 80%. I suspect that is the reason you have so many people saying “go Seaton” and never “go Bunker Hill”, but I’ll go sip my tea.
If you would like to sing the praises of Bunker Hill please feel free to start your own thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seaton is a 3 star (out of 5) school that doesn’t even score as high as Bunker Hill. Boosters don’t take any time off huh.
Or maybe the star system is statistically dubious and not a reloable indicator of quality for early elementary.
Did OP mention she had a #1?
No, but obviously it isn't ITS.