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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

You do realize that people on this board don't always and actually rarely work in DC. They also don't have terrible commutes because they work within their own suburb. Sure you can look at a small sliver of the population that have a terrible commute and extrapolate that everybody in the burbs also have the same commute, which is often done on this board. People on this board could not believe people in Gaitherburg actually work at Shady Grove Hospital, or Medimmune or NCI.

Wow 3 people.

Again, keep in mind that you're posting on an urban parenting website so telling me to check myself because you live and work in the burbs and never come into the city unless it's for a Nats game is a little ironic.

I WFH full-time, others can take a chauffeured Suburban to their offices. From a numbers standpoint the vast majority of this region works in a job center and lives in a suburb.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I hear you, I also feel like bus to metro lengthens my commute a lot and I get that it won't work for everyone. But we're trying really, really hard to avoid getting a second car as long as possible (I think having a second kid might be the breaking point), and those are factors that would help for people who do need or want to use public transit.

No doubt, and I am not saying they would have no impact or are bad ideas. But there are a number of people who post on various threads claiming added buses would be a panacea and everyone should be willing to use them. I was merely pointing out why it would be hard for increased buses to have a major impact because it would still lead to doubling or tripling of commmite times (more if you required two buses to make it work, more likely when you factor in people often don't go straight home) something I doubt man of the posters would be willing to do themselves.

Plenty of people use buses now. Increased bus frequency would almost certainly make it more viable for more people (especially for people who take more than one, because it would reduce transfer delay)

Yup. It certainly wouldn't be a panacea but it's by far the most obvious step to better serve people with transit beyond a mile from metro. Just like a lot of people will just drive instead of using metro on weekend s because the time between trains is so long, and the obvious solution (given political will and funding, obviously) would be to increase service...that's a tradeoff people make with buses every day of the week.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

You do realize that people on this board don't always and actually rarely work in DC. They also don't have terrible commutes because they work within their own suburb. Sure you can look at a small sliver of the population that have a terrible commute and extrapolate that everybody in the burbs also have the same commute, which is often done on this board. People on this board could not believe people in Gaitherburg actually work at Shady Grove Hospital, or Medimmune or NCI.

Wow 3 people.

Its great that some people have short suburb to suburb commutes. Clearly based on yesterday many do not.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I hear you, I also feel like bus to metro lengthens my commute a lot and I get that it won't work for everyone. But we're trying really, really hard to avoid getting a second car as long as possible (I think having a second kid might be the breaking point), and those are factors that would help for people who do need or want to use public transit.

No doubt, and I am not saying they would have no impact or are bad ideas. But there are a number of people who post on various threads claiming added buses would be a panacea and everyone should be willing to use them. I was merely pointing out why it would be hard for increased buses to have a major impact because it would still lead to doubling or tripling of commmite times (more if you required two buses to make it work, more likely when you factor in people often don't go straight home) something I doubt man of the posters would be willing to do themselves.

Plenty of people use buses now. Increased bus frequency would almost certainly make it more viable for more people (especially for people who take more than one, because it would reduce transfer delay)

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

You do realize that people on this board don't always and actually rarely work in DC. They also don't have terrible commutes because they work within their own suburb. Sure you can look at a small sliver of the population that have a terrible commute and extrapolate that everybody in the burbs also have the same commute, which is often done on this board. People on this board could not believe people in Gaitherburg actually work at Shady Grove Hospital, or Medimmune or NCI.

Wow 3 people.

NP. Source for people "rarely" working in DC on this particular site?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

You do realize that people on this board don't always and actually rarely work in DC. They also don't have terrible commutes because they work within their own suburb. Sure you can look at a small sliver of the population that have a terrible commute and extrapolate that everybody in the burbs also have the same commute, which is often done on this board. People on this board could not believe people in Gaitherburg actually work at Shady Grove Hospital, or Medimmune or NCI.

Wow 3 people.

Anonymous wrote:PP, I hear you, I also feel like bus to metro lengthens my commute a lot and I get that it won't work for everyone. But we're trying really, really hard to avoid getting a second car as long as possible (I think having a second kid might be the breaking point), and those are factors that would help for people who do need or want to use public transit.

No doubt, and I am not saying they would have no impact or are bad ideas. But there are a number of people who post on various threads claiming added buses would be a panacea and everyone should be willing to use them. I was merely pointing out why it would be hard for increased buses to have a major impact because it would still lead to doubling or tripling of commmite times (more if you required two buses to make it work, more likely when you factor in people often don't go straight home) something I doubt man of the posters would be willing to do themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

Someone does not even need to live in a place like the Hill to avoid most of what happened yesterday.

Somebody working in Tysons could live in Vienna or Falls Church or Reston as an example instead of MoCo. I mean I get it that some people can't do that because they recently changed jobs, or their SO works in Md, or whatever - but I suspect more would live close if A. We made it easier by building more housing close to suburban job centers (Lots of new hirises in Tysons, but there has been NIMBY opposition to densification in Vienna, in part of North Arlington, and especially in Reston. B. If more people were less focused on large detached SFHs as the best way to live

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

You do realize the name of the website you're posting on? Commute length is one of the largest factors in life satisfaction so "terrible mental health" does not have any basis in reality.

We're on Capitol Hill and very close with our neighbors. DW and I garden with the woman next door and if I needed someone to check on the house I would have my choice between 3 people. We don't engage in the suburban BMW X1 vs X3 pissing contest so I guess in that sense we're not that close.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it open now?

I need an update, too. Will leave home in 8 minutes

Yes, opened at 3am.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

Half the world lives in urban areas. Maybe living in an urban area might make you smarter and less prone to crude generalizations.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

Aren’t al of these places people mentioning in the burbs?

Or, people need to live closer to their jobs in urban areas or walkable to metro and dump their cars all together. It's a healthier lifestyle than spending hours in traffic per day.

No thanks. Walkable might make me skinnier but people in the city have horrible attitudes, are rude, don't know their neighbors and have general terrible mental health.

Anonymous wrote:I cycled home, as I do every night. Beautiful sunset, good exercise. I commend it to those who can make it work.

How many kids can you fit on that bike and their school books and sports equipment?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to refer to this thread on those endless threads in the real estate forum on why walkability and proximity to metro go for a premium. Traffic is the most unproductive time suck.

Or anytime someone posts a thread about how terrible metro is. I've been home for hours (and I live out near vienna)

Once every 10 years. Bfd

It is more than that and today's traffic is a similar anomaly.

People need to stop working in DC and push for more jobs in the burbs instead of living in shit shacks.

The problem tonight is that all the people who live in Montgomery County (suburbs) and work in Virginia(suburbs) couldn’t get home because the one bridge connecting them is shut down.

No, it's people coming out of the city, taking GW then to MD.

PP, I hear you, I also feel like bus to metro lengthens my commute a lot and I get that it won't work for everyone. But we're trying really, really hard to avoid getting a second car as long as possible (I think having a second kid might be the breaking point), and those are factors that would help for people who do need or want to use public transit.