Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:32
Subject: S/o why are families that live in apartments looked down on?
[quote=Anonymous
Yup and then they say that Oakland Terrace will see an increase of 10 students next year. Next year comes and there is an increase of 100 students. They then say that it was unexpected/unexplained because their growth models didn't pick it up. I've seen it year after year.
Yup and then they say that Oakland Terrace will see an increase of 10 students next year. Next year comes and there is an increase of 100 students. They then say that it was unexpected/unexplained because their growth models didn't pick it up. I've seen it year after year.
When and where did who say that Oakland Terrace enrollment would increase by 10 students but it actually increased by 100 students?
Also, Oakland Terrace is mostly houses with yards.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:30
Subject: Re:S/o why are families that live in apartments looked down on?
How bizarre that a pp just cited Oakland Terrace. It is, and has been, underenrolled for years and has a very stable population. The school has fewer than 500 kids. It’s obviously not increasing by 100 kids (?!).
Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:22
Subject: S/o why are families that live in apartments looked down on?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Says who? To the extent that houses with yards are bigger than apartments, I'd say that they're MORE likely to.
Home appraiser here - In the high Hispanic areas of the county, there are multiple families living everywhere - house, apartment, townhome, etc. 4-5 mattresses per bedroom is not unusual at all. This is 100% the reason there is overcrowding in schools located in these areas. MCPS doesn't recognize this and it's not a part of their calculations. They still use 25 year old models for estimating growth.
And the reason in Bethesda is...?
As for your statement that this is an unrecognized, unaccounted-for phenomenon: it's not.
Every other year, Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) provides the Planning Department with a dataset that includes the address and grade of every MCPS student (with all other identifying information scrubbed from the dataset). The Planning Department then cross-references this information with parcel data that identifies the type of housing at the relevant address (single-family home, townhouse, high-rise multifamily, etc.).
Using this information, the Planning Department calculates how many elementary, middle and high school students are generated by different types of housing across different parts of the county. When the rates were last calculated using 2016 enrollment data, housing type information was matched to the addresses of 99.1 percent of the more than 159,000 MCPS students. This means that the resulting generation rates are based on a nearly-complete picture of exactly how many kids live in each category of housing across the entire county.
https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02/schools-and-growth-part-two-student-generation-rates-and-children-who-live-in-apartments/
Yup and then they say that Oakland Terrace will see an increase of 10 students next year. Next year comes and there is an increase of 100 students. They then say that it was unexpected/unexplained because their growth models didn't pick it up. I've seen it year after year.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:24
Subject: S/o why are families that live in apartments looked down on?
Anonymous wrote:
Says who? To the extent that houses with yards are bigger than apartments, I'd say that they're MORE likely to.
Home appraiser here - In the high Hispanic areas of the county, there are multiple families living everywhere - house, apartment, townhome, etc. 4-5 mattresses per bedroom is not unusual at all. This is 100% the reason there is overcrowding in schools located in these areas. MCPS doesn't recognize this and it's not a part of their calculations. They still use 25 year old models for estimating growth.
And the reason in Bethesda is...?
As for your statement that this is an unrecognized, unaccounted-for phenomenon: it's not.
Every other year, Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) provides the Planning Department with a dataset that includes the address and grade of every MCPS student (with all other identifying information scrubbed from the dataset). The Planning Department then cross-references this information with parcel data that identifies the type of housing at the relevant address (single-family home, townhouse, high-rise multifamily, etc.).
Using this information, the Planning Department calculates how many elementary, middle and high school students are generated by different types of housing across different parts of the county. When the rates were last calculated using 2016 enrollment data, housing type information was matched to the addresses of 99.1 percent of the more than 159,000 MCPS students. This means that the resulting generation rates are based on a nearly-complete picture of exactly how many kids live in each category of housing across the entire county.
https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02/schools-and-growth-part-two-student-generation-rates-and-children-who-live-in-apartments/