Anonymous
02/24/2019 10:44
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crossfire Premier announced that it was moving back to ECNL for next season. That is another BIG club to leave DA for ECNL. Serious question: why does it seem like DA is losing out to ECNL? I thought DA was going to be the ultimate winner in this one, but they've now lost a number of the big clubs that originally jumped ship from ECNL. Add to that the rumors that DA is about to remove the prohibition on high school soccer, and it certainly feels like DA is on the back foot in this battle.
The reasons for Crossfire are largely logistic. In the ECNL, they are grouped in a conference that allows them to compete with 5 other clubs in driving distance. In the DA, they have to fly to most of their games. It became untenable for a lot of families.
This is very different than the "planned" ultimatum given to PDA and others that they make a choice.
Not true.
True.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 10:35
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
If these national events were just for a few trams have at it if you want to go. You want to put your kid in competitive soccer, you are forced to national events even if you are team number 20 or 30 or more. That is just the way it is. Even for the some of the younger ages. It can actually incentivize trams to try not to qualify.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 10:31
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crossfire Premier announced that it was moving back to ECNL for next season. That is another BIG club to leave DA for ECNL. Serious question: why does it seem like DA is losing out to ECNL? I thought DA was going to be the ultimate winner in this one, but they've now lost a number of the big clubs that originally jumped ship from ECNL. Add to that the rumors that DA is about to remove the prohibition on high school soccer, and it certainly feels like DA is on the back foot in this battle.
The reasons for Crossfire are largely logistic. In the ECNL, they are grouped in a conference that allows them to compete with 5 other clubs in driving distance. In the DA, they have to fly to most of their games. It became untenable for a lot of families.
This is very different than the "planned" ultimatum given to PDA and others that they make a choice.
Not true.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 09:39
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:HS is played in different seasons in different regions. There could never be any "national" HS champ. And so what. Useless title for children's sports. Sports for kids needs to be strictly local and regional.
Have you ever been to one of these and seen the emotion that is generated? True, they are useless titles in the grand scheme of sports, but in the lives of the players, they are unforgettable. It is worth it for those at the tip of the spear.
So the national events aren't the target in my book. It's the regular league schedules that are the most egregious. These could largely be eliminated by consolidation of DA, ECNL, and regional elite leagues. It is just dreaming however, there are too many political aspects in play that prevent this from happening.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 09:11
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
HS is played in different seasons in different regions. There could never be any "national" HS champ. And so what. Useless title for children's sports. Sports for kids needs to be strictly local and regional.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 08:45
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:The travel is beastly and so unnecessary for both these leagues. So easy to win this battle by addressing that one problem. Eliminate wasteful and useless "national" events and allow enough clubs in to control travel nonsense and you will win. This is the number one parent complaint and factor driving families away from these leagues.
Yes. So true nationally and locally. Imagine how much easier travel would be for DMV teams if VA and MD HS soccer had the same schedule. If that were the case and things were consolidated between ECNL/DA, then you’d have a 10 team conference with travel no further north than Baltimore. God that’d be nice.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 08:31
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
The travel is beastly and so unnecessary for both these leagues. So easy to win this battle by addressing that one problem. Eliminate wasteful and useless "national" events and allow enough clubs in to control travel nonsense and you will win. This is the number one parent complaint and factor driving families away from these leagues.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 08:08
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crossfire Premier announced that it was moving back to ECNL for next season. That is another BIG club to leave DA for ECNL. Serious question: why does it seem like DA is losing out to ECNL? I thought DA was going to be the ultimate winner in this one, but they've now lost a number of the big clubs that originally jumped ship from ECNL. Add to that the rumors that DA is about to remove the prohibition on high school soccer, and it certainly feels like DA is on the back foot in this battle.
The reasons for Crossfire are largely logistic. In the ECNL, they are grouped in a conference that allows them to compete with 5 other clubs in driving distance. In the DA, they have to fly to most of their games. It became untenable for a lot of families.
This is very different than the "planned" ultimatum given to PDA and others that they make a choice.
I have no inside info but the travel difference argument seems dubious to me just looking at the map.The travel looks in the NW looks pretty imposing and the footprint of ECNL's Northwest conference is actually larger than GDA's. Perhaps there is a plan for ECNL to realign the conferences in this area, since they already have 16 teams there. Since Crossfire already had an ECNL berth, the consolidation of resources might have weighed into their decision too.
Anonymous
02/24/2019 04:08
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Crossfire Premier announced that it was moving back to ECNL for next season. That is another BIG club to leave DA for ECNL. Serious question: why does it seem like DA is losing out to ECNL? I thought DA was going to be the ultimate winner in this one, but they've now lost a number of the big clubs that originally jumped ship from ECNL. Add to that the rumors that DA is about to remove the prohibition on high school soccer, and it certainly feels like DA is on the back foot in this battle.
The reasons for Crossfire are largely logistic. In the ECNL, they are grouped in a conference that allows them to compete with 5 other clubs in driving distance. In the DA, they have to fly to most of their games. It became untenable for a lot of families.
This is very different than the "planned" ultimatum given to PDA and others that they make a choice.
Anonymous
02/23/2019 20:49
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
FCV and Spirit VA are the best in every age group.
Anonymous
02/23/2019 19:12
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not apple vs oranges. Its apples vs apples.
The DA is a more expensive (for the club) and restrictive (for the player) league. The DA may say their mission is one thing...but the product they deliver is the same. You can not run a national league for .001 percent of the player pool.
99.999 percent of DA players are in the league for college exposure. 99.999 percent of ECNL players are in the league for college exposure.
Both are accomplishing that mission with their showcases. However, ECNL is more appealing to the club management. The players dont care if their badge says DA or ECNl as long as the outcome is the same (recruitment).
It's what makes sense for the club.
ECNL IS run for 99% of the players and is still Elite?
Geez, reading comprehension. Try it again doofus.
See bolded doofus.
Anonymous
02/23/2019 17:31
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not apple vs oranges. Its apples vs apples.
The DA is a more expensive (for the club) and restrictive (for the player) league. The DA may say their mission is one thing...but the product they deliver is the same. You can not run a national league for .001 percent of the player pool.
99.999 percent of DA players are in the league for college exposure. 99.999 percent of ECNL players are in the league for college exposure.
Both are accomplishing that mission with their showcases. However, ECNL is more appealing to the club management. The players dont care if their badge says DA or ECNl as long as the outcome is the same (recruitment).
It's what makes sense for the club.
ECNL IS run for 99% of the players and is still Elite?
Geez, reading comprehension. Try it again doofus.
Anonymous
02/23/2019 15:37
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Richmond is best team in state at 04 ... 2 YNT kids on that group, tied fcv in pre season match with most of team missing
Dumbest thing I ever heard....they also beat WS VA 1-0 on a last minute goal.
Theu are far from being the best team
Anonymous
02/23/2019 15:33
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not apple vs oranges. Its apples vs apples.
The DA is a more expensive (for the club) and restrictive (for the player) league. The DA may say their mission is one thing...but the product they deliver is the same. You can not run a national league for .001 percent of the player pool.
99.999 percent of DA players are in the league for college exposure. 99.999 percent of ECNL players are in the league for college exposure.
Both are accomplishing that mission with their showcases. However, ECNL is more appealing to the club management. The players dont care if their badge says DA or ECNl as long as the outcome is the same (recruitment).
It's what makes sense for the club.
ECNL IS run for 99% of the players and is still Elite?
Who is DA run for?
Anonymous
02/23/2019 14:22
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:In NOVA we just need fewer options to force talent consolidation. I don't really care whether the options that fold versus remain are ECNL or DA. In part that's because I'm confident my daughter would be rostered on one of the remaining teams (no she's not a YNT player but she's got a good work ethic and she's talented, and she was made multiple offers when she decided she wanted to go DA/ECNL). If your kid is the last girl rostered on a current 'high level' team, you might have a different opinion.
I guess congratulations are in order for you
