Netherlands is 90% Euro Caucasians and the size of Pennsylvania. Easy for these foreigners to have all the solutions from their tiny utopias.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I wish that Dutch guy could run for US president.

I dont.

I don't agree with what the Dutch guy supports, but that was an awesome takedown on Carlson, and Carlson's response is typical of someone who can't defend himself so he resorts cursing at you.

I also don't need him to run for president.

But the US needs to get big money out of politics - and equally important, out of media, and out of society. We can't have a functioning democracy at the same time we have the Koch network and the Waltons and Mercers and Wilkses and Anschutz and Singer buying and running media outlets, and thinktanks like Cato and AEI, and entire university departments like GMU Econ. It cannot be the case that the basis of our public debate is founded on propaganda funded by billionaires.

And one important way to make headway on reducing money in politics is a wealth tax. We need many other reforms, but that is a good start, and that's what the Dutch economist is advocating.

If you think money is bad, then you are free to divest yourself of it, but you are not free (at least, not in a free society) to divest other people of their money, simply because you disagree with their use of it.

Money is not free speech. Citizens United needs to be legislatively overturned with strict campaign finance.

To put it in speech terms, picture someone trying to speak and be heard in a normal voice. But then someone with a 10,000 watt PA system (someone with more money) rolls up and drowns the first guy out. It has effectively denied the first guy his free speech.

That is why money and free speech CANNOT be equated and why we need strict and serious campaign finance reforms.

I would suggest eliminating all kinds of political spending whatsoever except for direct contributions by individuals, and with a spending limit that is affordable, like $50 per candidate per cycle, and even there, the contributions should probably have to flow in through a central process so they can be fully accounted for, tied to a social security number and verified as US citizens - no corporations or other entities, and then funds get disbursed back out to the candidates. And anyone caught trying to subvert the process would be charged with a felony with serious consequence like jail term and be barred from any kind of future political work.

If there is some specific issue or special interest that the donor wants to support they would have the option of tagging that with their contribution but that would then be their one and only contribution for that issue and that candidate allowed in that cycle. That way there would also be a lot less out-of-state special interest money flowing into coffers, donors would be more driven to only focusing on their cause with their own representatives.

Anonymous wrote:Tax the rich is just a bullish— slogan these commies say to rile up the insecure into voting. Yeah, we’re gonna stick it to rich people! Except rich will ALWAYS avoid taxes; tax code loopholes, park it in foundations & low tax investments, in foreign islands. So who ends up paying more in the end? The middle class, of course.

Notice the Dutch dork had no solutions on how exactly to close all the loopholes and tax dodging. They never do.

You don't think there are solutions? We can start with campaign finance reform. There are already a number of House members and new candidates who are looking to curb a lot of political spending. With enough critical mass it will happen. Stop voting for corporate candidates and it will happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I wish that Dutch guy could run for US president.

I dont.

I don't agree with what the Dutch guy supports, but that was an awesome takedown on Carlson, and Carlson's response is typical of someone who can't defend himself so he resorts cursing at you.

No, it's typical of someone who's pissed off that the other person deliberately went "off script" from whatever had been the planned discussion for the segment, which Carlson and his producers had prepared with the Dutch guy.

If you're a performer in a play and doing a scene with someone else who deliberately goes off-script and starts messing up the lines, with the specific purpose of making you look like a fool, then no you're not going to like that.

No one who gets on these shows is permitted to say whatever they feel like nor are they permitted to sandbag the host. Every word might not have been pre-scripted but guaranteed there was a lot of preparation with this guy by one of Carlson's producers about how the segment was supposed to go.

If you are a guest at someone else's home and start throwing monkey feces then you won't be welcome very much longer.

It's typical of someone who can't handle the hard questions, and so resort to cursing, like Trump. If you have nothing to hide, and you are intelligent, you don't need to resort to cursing. Only fluff interviews need a script. Are you saying that Trump and Carlson are fluff interviews? Well, I would agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Tucker is intelligent. Disgusting people can be intelligent.

No, he's a dummy. He went to Trinity College where preppy kids go who don't get into anywhere decent.

LACs like Trinity are where smart middle of the pack at their boarding school and elite prep school kids go. Your remarks make you sound like a bitter unfulfilled person.

Trinity's nickname is "Camp Trin-Trin"

It's not a term of respect or endearment.

Tax the rich is just a bullish— slogan these commies say to rile up the insecure into voting. Yeah, we’re gonna stick it to rich people! Except rich will ALWAYS avoid taxes; tax code loopholes, park it in foundations & low tax investments, in foreign islands. So who ends up paying more in the end? The middle class, of course.

Notice the Dutch dork had no solutions on how exactly to close all the loopholes and tax dodging. They never do.

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Anonymous wrote:Tucker is intelligent. Disgusting people can be intelligent.

No, he's a dummy. He went to Trinity College where preppy kids go who don't get into anywhere decent.

LACs like Trinity are where smart middle of the pack at their boarding school and elite prep school kids go. Your remarks make you sound like a bitter unfulfilled person.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I wish that Dutch guy could run for US president.

I dont.

I don't agree with what the Dutch guy supports, but that was an awesome takedown on Carlson, and Carlson's response is typical of someone who can't defend himself so he resorts cursing at you.

No, it's typical of someone who's pissed off that the other person deliberately went "off script" from whatever had been the planned discussion for the segment, which Carlson and his producers had prepared with the Dutch guy.

If you're a performer in a play and doing a scene with someone else who deliberately goes off-script and starts messing up the lines, with the specific purpose of making you look like a fool, then no you're not going to like that.

No one who gets on these shows is permitted to say whatever they feel like nor are they permitted to sandbag the host. Every word might not have been pre-scripted but guaranteed there was a lot of preparation with this guy by one of Carlson's producers about how the segment was supposed to go.

If you are a guest at someone else's home and start throwing monkey feces then you won't be welcome very much longer.

Bullshit. Tucker Carlson is constantly touted as being this very intelligent guy yet when calmly confronted with a few inconvenient (and very true) facts he completely melted down and became grotesquely unprofessional.

Tucker Carlson only looks intelligent and composed when he has a well defined script and well constructed set of talking points to work from. In real life situations, however, he is a complete failure. It goes to show what a charade conservative media is. They never actually have any intelligent, well-informed liberals on their shows, and when a few slip in it's a disaster. There have been so many times where I have seen the same thing happen with Rush Limbaugh, Marc Levin and others, they are usually able to screen out anyone who actually has their facts together but occasionally one slips through, and invariably they have a meltdown, try shouting over the other person and cut them off as fast as possible. It's like an allergic reaction to reality.

Just like how they tout Ben Shapiro as being some kind of super intelligent guy "owning libs," just because he's able to win arguments against inexperienced idealistic teenagers on college campuses. It's a grown man beating up children, verbally as opposed to fists. I know quite a few adults who could easily run circles around Ben Shapiro debating the issues, but those are venues that he avoids like the plague.

Anonymous wrote:Tucker is intelligent. Disgusting people can be intelligent.

No, he's a dummy. He went to Trinity College where preppy kids go who don't get into anywhere decent.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I was just disappointed the Dutch guy didn’t mention the dirty Koch money he’s taking at the Daily Caller.

Fox would exist without any Murdoch subsidy (thought there would be much less propaganda.)
But the Daily Caller would go out of business tomorrow without billionaire donations.

Billionaires own/support/major shareholders of basically every media outlet - including this Dutch guy’s newspaper.

Check this book out. Turns out that the majority of billionaires actually spend their money on conservative causes. The pro-civil society billionaires are fewer. The conservative billionaires just get a lot less press.

“Rich people influence politics mostly by spending money to back low taxes on the rich” sounds kind of banal, but it actually goes pretty sharply against the impression you’d get from the media that billionaires are mostly backing gun control and fighting malaria.”



So Bregman is right. Carlson is in that chair because he helps Murdoch.

Rich conservatives and libertarians are all about "I got mine, so screw everyone else." They get to where they are and pull the ladder up behind them.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I was just disappointed the Dutch guy didn’t mention the dirty Koch money he’s taking at the Daily Caller.

Fox would exist without any Murdoch subsidy (thought there would be much less propaganda.)
But the Daily Caller would go out of business tomorrow without billionaire donations.

Billionaires own/support/major shareholders of basically every media outlet - including this Dutch guy’s newspaper.

Check this book out. Turns out that the majority of billionaires actually spend their money on conservative causes. The pro-civil society billionaires are fewer. The conservative billionaires just get a lot less press.

“Rich people influence politics mostly by spending money to back low taxes on the rich” sounds kind of banal, but it actually goes pretty sharply against the impression you’d get from the media that billionaires are mostly backing gun control and fighting malaria.”



So Bregman is right. Carlson is in that chair because he helps Murdoch.

YUP! And that's what set Tucker Carlson off.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I was just disappointed the Dutch guy didn’t mention the dirty Koch money he’s taking at the Daily Caller.

Fox would exist without any Murdoch subsidy (thought there would be much less propaganda.)
But the Daily Caller would go out of business tomorrow without billionaire donations.

Billionaires own/support/major shareholders of basically every media outlet - including this Dutch guy’s newspaper.

Check this book out. Turns out that the majority of billionaires actually spend their money on conservative causes. The pro-civil society billionaires are fewer. The conservative billionaires just get a lot less press.

“Rich people influence politics mostly by spending money to back low taxes on the rich” sounds kind of banal, but it actually goes pretty sharply against the impression you’d get from the media that billionaires are mostly backing gun control and fighting malaria.”



So Bregman is right. Carlson is in that chair because he helps Murdoch.

I’m going to watch again. Just because it’s friday. TGIF!!

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I was just disappointed the Dutch guy didn’t mention the dirty Koch money he’s taking at the Daily Caller.

Fox would exist without any Murdoch subsidy (thought there would be much less propaganda.)
But the Daily Caller would go out of business tomorrow without billionaire donations.

Billionaires own/support/major shareholders of basically every media outlet - including this Dutch guy’s newspaper.

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Anonymous wrote:Dutch guy told him right to his face that he took dirty money at Cato and he takes dirty money at Fox. Carlson then proceeded to sputter, gasp, melt down and finally spew profanity in his frustration.

Complete takedown.

I wish that Dutch guy could run for US president.

I dont.

I don't agree with what the Dutch guy supports, but that was an awesome takedown on Carlson, and Carlson's response is typical of someone who can't defend himself so he resorts cursing at you.

No, it's typical of someone who's pissed off that the other person deliberately went "off script" from whatever had been the planned discussion for the segment, which Carlson and his producers had prepared with the Dutch guy.

If you're a performer in a play and doing a scene with someone else who deliberately goes off-script and starts messing up the lines, with the specific purpose of making you look like a fool, then no you're not going to like that.

No one who gets on these shows is permitted to say whatever they feel like nor are they permitted to sandbag the host. Every word might not have been pre-scripted but guaranteed there was a lot of preparation with this guy by one of Carlson's producers about how the segment was supposed to go.

If you are a guest at someone else's home and start throwing monkey feces then you won't be welcome very much longer.

Bullshit. Tucker Carlson is constantly touted as being this very intelligent guy yet when calmly confronted with a few inconvenient (and very true) facts he completely melted down and became grotesquely unprofessional.

Tucker Carlson only looks intelligent and composed when he has a well defined script and well constructed set of talking points to work from. In real life situations, however, he is a complete failure. It goes to show what a charade conservative media is. They never actually have any intelligent, well-informed liberals on their shows, and when a few slip in it's a disaster. There have been so many times where I have seen the same thing happen with Rush Limbaugh, Marc Levin and others, they are usually able to screen out anyone who actually has their facts together but occasionally one slips through, and invariably they have a meltdown, try shouting over the other person and cut them off as fast as possible. It's like an allergic reaction to reality.