Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:08     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We purposely put our kids in a diverse, middle of the pack HS to avoid the extreme ends of the spectrum (lots of entitled, rich kids vs lots of troubled, poor kids). We figured a school in the middle of these would make it easy for our kids to find a good group of friends who share the same interests as them and who care about education; without the pressures or the stress of being in either one of these extreme environments.


What does this mean?

What is middle of the pack?


GS rating 7, FARM rate between 20-30%.


How do you feel it’s working out? Genuine curiosity?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:07     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest


NW grad rate last year >= 95%
BCC grade rate 94.4%

NW FARMs rate 22%
BCC FARMs rate 11%


Which proves the point that graduation rates don't always relate to SES.

Not always, but it's a good indicator. Even Whitman where they have a <= 5% FARMs rate doesn't have a 100% graduation rate.


I'm surprised about RM honestly. 19.8% FARMS which is #11 on the list; again comparing it to NW which has a 22% FARMS rate.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:07     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We purposely put our kids in a diverse, middle of the pack HS to avoid the extreme ends of the spectrum (lots of entitled, rich kids vs lots of troubled, poor kids). We figured a school in the middle of these would make it easy for our kids to find a good group of friends who share the same interests as them and who care about education; without the pressures or the stress of being in either one of these extreme environments.


What does this mean?

What is middle of the pack?


GS rating 7, FARM rate between 20-30%.

DP.. I generally agree with you about middle of the pack, and we did the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:06     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We purposely put our kids in a diverse, middle of the pack HS to avoid the extreme ends of the spectrum (lots of entitled, rich kids vs lots of troubled, poor kids). We figured a school in the middle of these would make it easy for our kids to find a good group of friends who share the same interests as them and who care about education; without the pressures or the stress of being in either one of these extreme environments.


What does this mean?

What is middle of the pack?


GS rating 7, FARM rate between 20-30%.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:04     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:We purposely put our kids in a diverse, middle of the pack HS to avoid the extreme ends of the spectrum (lots of entitled, rich kids vs lots of troubled, poor kids). We figured a school in the middle of these would make it easy for our kids to find a good group of friends who share the same interests as them and who care about education; without the pressures or the stress of being in either one of these extreme environments.


What does this mean?

What is middle of the pack?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 13:03     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest


NW grad rate last year >= 95%
BCC grade rate 94.4%

NW FARMs rate 22%
BCC FARMs rate 11%


Which proves the point that graduation rates don't always relate to SES.

Not always, but it's a good indicator. Even Whitman where they have a <= 5% FARMs rate doesn't have a 100% graduation rate.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:59     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest


NW grad rate last year >= 95%
BCC grade rate 94.4%

NW FARMs rate 22%
BCC FARMs rate 11%


Which proves the point that graduation rates don't always relate to SES.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:57     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest


Yup, considering that here in DCUM, Northwest is considered ganglandia.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:57     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ why by graduation rates, which is also a reflection of SES.


A lot of things are based on SES. Better by graduation rates rather than basing it off of nothing as what the other previous posters have been doing. High graduation rates mean that there is a good number of kids who care about well, graduating.. which isn't a high bar in my opinion even so for kids from low SES. Schools that have low graduation rates (lower than the state average) would concern me big time.


Even the lowest rates on this list are over 75%, which means "a good number of kids" care about graduating at every school.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:57     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest


NW grad rate last year >= 95%
BCC grade rate 94.4%

NW FARMs rate 22%
BCC FARMs rate 11%
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:54     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:If you want to base your ratings on something, at least do it by graduation rates. You can come up with your own tiers from here.

1. Walt Whitman High (97.9 percent)
2. Thomas S. Wootton High (97.8 percent)
3. Winston Churchill High (97.4 percent)
4. Poolesville High (96.2 percent)
5. Walter Johnson High (95.8 percent)
6. Quince Orchard High (95.6 percent)
7. Northwest High (94.95 percent)
8. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High (94.42 percent)
9. Damascus High (93.98 percent)
10. Sherwood High (93.89 percent)
11. Richard Montgomery High (92.24 percent)
12. Clarksburg High (91.52 percent)
13. Paint Branch High (90.55 percent)
14. James Hubert Blake High (90.21 percent)
15. Montgomery Blair High (86.21 percent)
16. Col. Zadok Magruder High (89.59 percent)
17. Springbrook High (87.83 percent)
18. Seneca Valley High (86.21 percent)
19. Rockville High (86.02 percent)
20. Watkins Mill High (84.5 percent)
21. Albert Einstein High (81.93 percent)
22. John F. Kennedy High (81.22 percent)
23. Northwood High (79.36 percent)
24. Gaithersburg High (77.39 percent)
25. Wheaton High (77.36 percent)


This is pretty accurate, but I'm surprised by BCC and Northwest
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:50     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:This thread is exactly the reason we ran - and ran far, far away.

#neverlookingback


Ran from DCUM, you mean?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:48     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ why by graduation rates, which is also a reflection of SES.


A lot of things are based on SES. Better by graduation rates rather than basing it off of nothing as what the other previous posters have been doing. High graduation rates mean that there is a good number of kids who care about well, graduating.. which isn't a high bar in my opinion even so for kids from low SES. Schools that have low graduation rates (lower than the state average) would concern me big time.


So... do you think that by going to a different school your own child’s SES is going to change?


Is this a serious question? Please for the love of God, say no.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:47     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ why by graduation rates, which is also a reflection of SES.


A lot of things are based on SES. Better by graduation rates rather than basing it off of nothing as what the other previous posters have been doing. High graduation rates mean that there is a good number of kids who care about well, graduating.. which isn't a high bar in my opinion even so for kids from low SES. Schools that have low graduation rates (lower than the state average) would concern me big time.


So... do you think that by going to a different school your own child’s SES is going to change?


More accurately, that YOUR socioeconomic status changes if your child goes to a different school.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 12:39     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ why by graduation rates, which is also a reflection of SES.


A lot of things are based on SES. Better by graduation rates rather than basing it off of nothing as what the other previous posters have been doing. High graduation rates mean that there is a good number of kids who care about well, graduating.. which isn't a high bar in my opinion even so for kids from low SES. Schools that have low graduation rates (lower than the state average) would concern me big time.


So... do you think that by going to a different school your own child’s SES is going to change?