Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From today's Bethesda Beat:

Rockville man charged with burglary, assault in College Park dorm

Josue Daniel Sigaran, 23, of Rockville, has been charged in connection to several robberies and assaults at a University of Maryland, College Park, dorm.

The suspect allegedly entered three rooms without authorization to do so, grabbed a girl’s arm in a hallway and entered an “occupied room where he kept the resident from leaving,” according to police, who say the man has no connections to the school. [FOX 5]

...and your point is...?

This is really horrible but I think this post got inserted in here by someone who just wanted to criticize UMD since it really has nothing to do with the discussion. As a PP said, bad things happen everywhere and if this poster thinks that this is unique to UMD and couldn't happen at whatever school their DC chose, they are in denial. Bad things happen everywhere and I am really sorry to hear that this bad thing happened to this student.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not that pp, but it is the reason that I wanted to go to a rural college rather than an urban university. My rural college, like St.Mary's, was much safer and I felt more comfortable than I ever did at home.

Feeling safe =\= being safe

Bad things can happen anywhere

I'm not that pp, but it is the reason that I wanted to go to a rural college rather than an urban university. My rural college, like St.Mary's, was much safer and I felt more comfortable than I ever did at home.

Anonymous wrote:From today's Bethesda Beat:

Rockville man charged with burglary, assault in College Park dorm

Josue Daniel Sigaran, 23, of Rockville, has been charged in connection to several robberies and assaults at a University of Maryland, College Park, dorm.

The suspect allegedly entered three rooms without authorization to do so, grabbed a girl’s arm in a hallway and entered an “occupied room where he kept the resident from leaving,” according to police, who say the man has no connections to the school. [FOX 5]

...and your point is...?

From today's Bethesda Beat:

Rockville man charged with burglary, assault in College Park dorm

Josue Daniel Sigaran, 23, of Rockville, has been charged in connection to several robberies and assaults at a University of Maryland, College Park, dorm.

The suspect allegedly entered three rooms without authorization to do so, grabbed a girl’s arm in a hallway and entered an “occupied room where he kept the resident from leaving,” according to police, who say the man has no connections to the school. [FOX 5]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - don't overlook out of state options.

My son wouldn't have gotten into VT engineering, but he's at a highly regarded engineering school elsewhere with enough merit aid that we're close. Certainly cheaper than UVA or WM

You just have to look around a bit. DMV kids have a good reputation in the midwest.

He's thriving.

One thing to keep in mind is that the in-state schools for Virginia residents are typically more expensive than the in-state schools for Maryland residents. So if you are saying that your out-of-state school came close to your in-state school tuition, that might be the case if you are in VA but maybe not if you are in MD.

Example, for tuition and room and board, UMD and UMBC are about $23,000 for in-state while UVA is closer to $30,000 in-state and William and Mary is about $37,000 in-state.

So what? The point the PP was making is that there are still midwest and southern OOS that are cheaper or similar to even $23,000. Heck, if you have a 30ACT and a 3.5GPA or higher, you can go to University of Alabama - Huntsville for absolutely free. They have a fantastic engineering program and are located right next to the NASA Space Flight Center.

There are so so many options out there.

This is the PP. Thanks.

And although the difference in the money the poster talks about is non-trivial (the few thousand dollars between what my family is paying and UMD), it isn't a deal breaker for many families reading here.

Besides cost difference between an OOS public with merit and the in-state, factor in the possibility that
1) the student might take more than 4 years to graduate and merit awards typically only cover 4 years. That extra semester or two is going to be a doozy
2) the student could lose that merit aid if their grades slip

OP, I much rather my child go out of state then to any of the in state MD schools. This is where most of the country part of MD go to. Unless you are going for a degree that doesn’t pay much (teaching, social work, etc..) you are better at a better ranked out of state. You would be surprised the merit they offer. And really, why pay over $10K a year to live in a dorm in the same state you grew up in? Branch out a bit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - don't overlook out of state options.

My son wouldn't have gotten into VT engineering, but he's at a highly regarded engineering school elsewhere with enough merit aid that we're close. Certainly cheaper than UVA or WM

You just have to look around a bit. DMV kids have a good reputation in the midwest.

He's thriving.

One thing to keep in mind is that the in-state schools for Virginia residents are typically more expensive than the in-state schools for Maryland residents. So if you are saying that your out-of-state school came close to your in-state school tuition, that might be the case if you are in VA but maybe not if you are in MD.

Example, for tuition and room and board, UMD and UMBC are about $23,000 for in-state while UVA is closer to $30,000 in-state and William and Mary is about $37,000 in-state.

So what? The point the PP was making is that there are still midwest and southern OOS that are cheaper or similar to even $23,000. Heck, if you have a 30ACT and a 3.5GPA or higher, you can go to University of Alabama - Huntsville for absolutely free. They have a fantastic engineering program and are located right next to the NASA Space Flight Center.

There are so so many options out there.

This is the PP. Thanks.

And although the difference in the money the poster talks about is non-trivial (the few thousand dollars between what my family is paying and UMD), it isn't a deal breaker for many families reading here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - don't overlook out of state options.

My son wouldn't have gotten into VT engineering, but he's at a highly regarded engineering school elsewhere with enough merit aid that we're close. Certainly cheaper than UVA or WM

You just have to look around a bit. DMV kids have a good reputation in the midwest.

He's thriving.

One thing to keep in mind is that the in-state schools for Virginia residents are typically more expensive than the in-state schools for Maryland residents. So if you are saying that your out-of-state school came close to your in-state school tuition, that might be the case if you are in VA but maybe not if you are in MD.

Example, for tuition and room and board, UMD and UMBC are about $23,000 for in-state while UVA is closer to $30,000 in-state and William and Mary is about $37,000 in-state.

Yup, but the point still holds. There is merit aid out there. And this thread is about what to do when the flagship won't take you.

Outside of UMD the other MD publics are not a big draw at our MCPS W HS. Enrollled students last 3 years.

2016 2017 2018
UMD 50 56 65
UMBC 5 3 4
Towson 2 7 4
Salisbury 3 3 5
St. Mary's 7 - 3
Frostburg 4 1 -

Anonymous wrote:I'm also optimistic about our in state options improving

I predict a bright future for umbc and St Mary's

I agree. Private colleges and universities are getting ridiculously expensive which makes these in-state options much more attractive. UMD is getting more selective every year and these other state schools are only going to see their selectivity rise.

All these schools are getting more popular. UMBC has so much going for it. According to Naviance at my kid’s large MCPS high school, the number of students attending UMBC has more than tripled in the past few years. St. Mary’s is really a hidden gem and has only recently started to get the word out about what it has to offer. They have the largest class freshman class in many years and a big increase in applications.

Anonymous wrote:I'm also optimistic about our in state options improving

I predict a bright future for umbc and St Mary's

St. Mary's has been going in the tank each year. Claiming to be an honors college hasn't help. UMBC seems to be a great college, but is basically a glorified commuter school.

Towson has been the status quo for decades. Same with Salisbury (although their status quo is much lower)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - don't overlook out of state options.

My son wouldn't have gotten into VT engineering, but he's at a highly regarded engineering school elsewhere with enough merit aid that we're close. Certainly cheaper than UVA or WM

You just have to look around a bit. DMV kids have a good reputation in the midwest.

He's thriving.

One thing to keep in mind is that the in-state schools for Virginia residents are typically more expensive than the in-state schools for Maryland residents. So if you are saying that your out-of-state school came close to your in-state school tuition, that might be the case if you are in VA but maybe not if you are in MD.

Example, for tuition and room and board, UMD and UMBC are about $23,000 for in-state while UVA is closer to $30,000 in-state and William and Mary is about $37,000 in-state.

So what? The point the PP was making is that there are still midwest and southern OOS that are cheaper or similar to even $23,000. Heck, if you have a 30ACT and a 3.5GPA or higher, you can go to University of Alabama - Huntsville for absolutely free. They have a fantastic engineering program and are located right next to the NASA Space Flight Center.

There are so so many options out there.

I had no idea William & Mary was so expensive for in-state.

Anonymous wrote:OP - don't overlook out of state options.

My son wouldn't have gotten into VT engineering, but he's at a highly regarded engineering school elsewhere with enough merit aid that we're close. Certainly cheaper than UVA or WM

You just have to look around a bit. DMV kids have a good reputation in the midwest.

He's thriving.

One thing to keep in mind is that the in-state schools for Virginia residents are typically more expensive than the in-state schools for Maryland residents. So if you are saying that your out-of-state school came close to your in-state school tuition, that might be the case if you are in VA but maybe not if you are in MD.

Example, for tuition and room and board, UMD and UMBC are about $23,000 for in-state while UVA is closer to $30,000 in-state and William and Mary is about $37,000 in-state.