Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are not the same person pressing the issue of naming DD's coach and club, I apologize but if you are, you really need to get yourself checked. I don't have anything negative to say about DD's current situation other than she wants to play at a higher level. Given the sensitivity of the situation, I will not disclose certain details. That being said, I have not asked anyone to list their coach or club. I just ask if anyone has experience with really good coaches at ECNL/DA or very strong non-ECNL/DA teams. Just explain why you believe that coach or club is strong. Look, I just beg you to go away. This thread would have been much more productive without your involvement.

I’m ok with nearly all that you have said but I do have to laugh a bit at the “sensitivity of the situation” comment. LOL A little dramatic don’t you think? Your current club is likely well aware that your DD is leaving and the media is not tracking your daughter like she is LeBron James and the “Decision”. So please, put it in perspective, your 12-14 year old is changing soccer clubs. BFD

Seems like a big deal to you. LOL

I'm just teasing, relax.

The comment just struck me as absurd. Everything else was just fine and the right tone but c'mon, its is youth soccer. The idea that the nature of the decision is "super sensitive" is pretty over the top. Literally every kid who plays soccer has a decision to make at the end of the year, stay or leave and if leave where. Sorry but this is no different than anyone else.

Even the nature of talking about coaches, hell if we were having this conversation in person I would be very transparent with you but here online, not so much.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are not the same person pressing the issue of naming DD's coach and club, I apologize but if you are, you really need to get yourself checked. I don't have anything negative to say about DD's current situation other than she wants to play at a higher level. Given the sensitivity of the situation, I will not disclose certain details. That being said, I have not asked anyone to list their coach or club. I just ask if anyone has experience with really good coaches at ECNL/DA or very strong non-ECNL/DA teams. Just explain why you believe that coach or club is strong. Look, I just beg you to go away. This thread would have been much more productive without your involvement.

I’m ok with nearly all that you have said but I do have to laugh a bit at the “sensitivity of the situation” comment. LOL A little dramatic don’t you think? Your current club is likely well aware that your DD is leaving and the media is not tracking your daughter like she is LeBron James and the “Decision”. So please, put it in perspective, your 12-14 year old is changing soccer clubs. BFD

Seems like a big deal to you. LOL

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are not the same person pressing the issue of naming DD's coach and club, I apologize but if you are, you really need to get yourself checked. I don't have anything negative to say about DD's current situation other than she wants to play at a higher level. Given the sensitivity of the situation, I will not disclose certain details. That being said, I have not asked anyone to list their coach or club. I just ask if anyone has experience with really good coaches at ECNL/DA or very strong non-ECNL/DA teams. Just explain why you believe that coach or club is strong. Look, I just beg you to go away. This thread would have been much more productive without your involvement.

I’m ok with nearly all that you have said but I do have to laugh a bit at the “sensitivity of the situation” comment. LOL A little dramatic don’t you think? Your current club is likely well aware that your DD is leaving and the media is not tracking your daughter like she is LeBron James and the “Decision”. So please, put it in perspective, your 12-14 year old is changing soccer clubs. BFD

Anonymous wrote:If you are not the same person pressing the issue of naming DD's coach and club, I apologize but if you are, you really need to get yourself checked. I don't have anything negative to say about DD's current situation other than she wants to play at a higher level. Given the sensitivity of the situation, I will not disclose certain details. That being said, I have not asked anyone to list their coach or club. I just ask if anyone has experience with really good coaches at ECNL/DA or very strong non-ECNL/DA teams. Just explain why you believe that coach or club is strong. Look, I just beg you to go away. This thread would have been much more productive without your involvement.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to the original question asked is really player-specific. For example, does your DD react better to a coach who is more critical/vocal in their instructions or does she react better to a more "positive" coaching approach?

How a parent rates a particular coach will most certainly be influenced by how their child was treated by, and reacted to, the coach, so a coach may be rated highly by one family but despised by another. Indeed, in this thread, there's a coach named that my DD played for that I would advise parents to avoid at all costs, but then, YMMV.

Very true. We have friends at Rush, which OP mentioned is one of the teams they are looking at. One of the parents loves the 06 coach, while another said: "Forget letting him coach my daughter. I wouldn't let him coach Osama Bin Laden's daughter."

As you said, your mileage may vary.

Exactly. Which is why the original question is more of a quagmire. Walk up and down the same sideline and ask the parents about the coach and you will get a range of answers. And all of the answers are generally dependent upon a few factors:

1. The players role
2. Playing time
3. Perceived treatment relative to other players
4. Overall team performance

People will weigh any of the above through their own lens and will often see things very differently. Some coaches are more polarizing than others and some may have more of a following than others. Some coaches are simply despised by all and that is often pretty universal but they usually don't last very long.

And through it all, just like coaches will make mistakes about kids so will we about them. Sometimes it just works out and is great and sometimes it can be a disaster no matter how many kudos and recommendations you heard. You have to be ok with making a mistake. When push comes to shove just let your kid decide. She may love the kids but hate the coach or vice versa. But she is the one who has to engage with the coach. Help her frame questions and engage the coach directly to get a feel for how well she can work with him/her. All coaches know how to tell YOU what you want to hear but it is harder to look a kid in the eye and lie to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer to the original question asked is really player-specific. For example, does your DD react better to a coach who is more critical/vocal in their instructions or does she react better to a more "positive" coaching approach?

How a parent rates a particular coach will most certainly be influenced by how their child was treated by, and reacted to, the coach, so a coach may be rated highly by one family but despised by another. Indeed, in this thread, there's a coach named that my DD played for that I would advise parents to avoid at all costs, but then, YMMV.

Very true. We have friends at Rush, which OP mentioned is one of the teams they are looking at. One of the parents loves the 06 coach, while another said: "Forget letting him coach my daughter. I wouldn't let him coach Osama Bin Laden's daughter."

As you said, your mileage may vary.

Exactly. Which is why the original question is more of a quagmire. Walk up and down the same sideline and ask the parents about the coach and you will get a range of answers. And all of the answers are generally dependent upon a few factors:

1. The players role
2. Playing time
3. Perceived treatment relative to other players
4. Overall team performance

People will weigh any of the above through their own lens and will often see things very differently. Some coaches are more polarizing than others and some may have more of a following than others. Some coaches are simply despised by all and that is often pretty universal but they usually don't last very long.

And through it all, just like coaches will make mistakes about kids so will we about them. Sometimes it just works out and is great and sometimes it can be a disaster no matter how many kudos and recommendations you heard. You have to be ok with making a mistake. When push comes to shove just let your kid decide. She may love the kids but hate the coach or vice versa. But she is the one who has to engage with the coach. Help her frame questions and engage the coach directly to get a feel for how well she can work with him/her. All coaches know how to tell YOU what you want to hear but it is harder to look a kid in the eye and lie to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer to the original question asked is really player-specific. For example, does your DD react better to a coach who is more critical/vocal in their instructions or does she react better to a more "positive" coaching approach?

How a parent rates a particular coach will most certainly be influenced by how their child was treated by, and reacted to, the coach, so a coach may be rated highly by one family but despised by another. Indeed, in this thread, there's a coach named that my DD played for that I would advise parents to avoid at all costs, but then, YMMV.

Very true. We have friends at Rush, which OP mentioned is one of the teams they are looking at. One of the parents loves the 06 coach, while another said: "Forget letting him coach my daughter. I wouldn't let him coach Osama Bin Laden's daughter."

As you said, your mileage may vary.