Anonymous wrote:The Office of Testing Integrity is part of College Board. ETS has not written the SAT since the new format came out in 2016. I doubt ETS has anything to do with this.

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Anonymous wrote:And one more thing, none of you have seen ETS’s evidence of her alleged cheating. But you credit their claim immediately, right? Typical. The letter they sent her is a stock letter that most students of her background do not wherewithal to challenge.

This is true. Big jumps in scores get the letter. It has nothing to do with race.

PP here. No, that’s not what I said. I think race absolutely has to do with who gets the stock letter trying to intimidate them into abandoning “too high” test scores. And I suspect that if ETS does not back down (which I am 100% sure it will in order to avoid being exposed during discovery), we will find out that black people are more likely to be flagged on little to no evidence beyond mere increases in scores that can be explained by hard work. Your race neutral Utopia does not exist.

Why do you think that race has something to do with who gets the letter?

There have been lots of posts on college confidential over the years about being flagged for score jumps and I never got the impression from those posts that there was a racial connection with getting the stock letter.

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Anonymous wrote:Was her test score flagged because she had raised her score by 300 points or was it flagged because her answers matched the answers of other test takers in the room? Or was it a combination of both?

All big raises get flagged for review

The matching was why they concluded she cheated

Yes - but she was starting in the 900s. A 300 score increase is totally normal with prep.

normal??? no it’s not. not on the 1600 version.

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Anonymous wrote:And one more thing, none of you have seen ETS’s evidence of her alleged cheating. But you credit their claim immediately, right? Typical. The letter they sent her is a stock letter that most students of her background do not wherewithal to challenge.

This is true. Big jumps in scores get the letter. It has nothing to do with race.

PP here. No, that’s not what I said. I think race absolutely has to do with who gets the stock letter trying to intimidate them into abandoning “too high” test scores. And I suspect that if ETS does not back down (which I am 100% sure it will in order to avoid being exposed during discovery), we will find out that black people are more likely to be flagged on little to no evidence beyond mere increases in scores that can be explained by hard work. Your race neutral Utopia does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:What she's doing is taking way more of her time and energy than retaking the test.

Anyone who raised their score that much fair and square would be jumping to retake the test and prove to everyone that they earned it.

What she is doing would end this ridiculousness for everyone forever and is therefore very useful.

+1000. ETS accused her or cheating. Let them prove it. And if it turns out there is no conclusive evidence of her cheating, I hope this turns into a class action because I am sure there are others like her flagged purely due to racial stereotypes.

Getting flagged and reviewed for a significant score jump is not the time to lawyer up and bring out the go fund me account.

Why would she not wait for the review to occur?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

This is my thought, too. My kid’s score was flagged after a very high jump, but was released after an investigation.

This is standard practice when there is a significant jump. It happens. It has nothing to do with race. The GoFundMe has only $46 which is where it should be. She just needs to retake the test and prove what she says is true - that she studied hard, etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The SAT doesn't have that kind of content. It's a skills test more than a memorization test. If she brushes up on her skills a little bit, she should have no problem repeating the test with a similar score.

She cheated, though. Her missed answers matched against another student's missed answers.

Assuming this evidence is presented and convincing, and backed statistical analysis and seating charts, isn't it possible the other student cheated from her?

She looks like a cheater

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Anonymous wrote:Some very dishonest people in this thread. She should go through the arduous process of taking an hours-long exam again (this time under tremendous pressure) because her score was flagged? If this was one of your precious white children, you would be suing everyone in sight. And I know this as an attorney who makes a good living filing lawsuits on behalf of spoiled rich people who I personally think I need to get lost. 99% of these are white people.

If this was my daughter, I would not allow her to retake the test. We would fight this and they could go ahead and produce the “evidence” of her “cheating.”

It sounds like it has happened to several people in this thread and they all reacted by waiting it out and letting the system move things through.

None of their first responses was to immediately hire a lawyer, go to the media, and set up a $100,000 go fund me.

That is why she is getting a negative reaction.

Her first response is disproportional to the process.

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Anonymous wrote:What she's doing is taking way more of her time and energy than retaking the test.

Anyone who raised their score that much fair and square would be jumping to retake the test and prove to everyone that they earned it.

What she is doing would end this ridiculousness for everyone forever and is therefore very useful.

+1000. ETS accused her or cheating. Let them prove it. And if it turns out there is no conclusive evidence of her cheating, I hope this turns into a class action because I am sure there are others like her flagged purely due to racial stereotypes.

Getting flagged and reviewed for a significant score jump is not the time to lawyer up and bring out the go fund me account.

Why would she not wait for the review to occur?

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Anonymous wrote:And one more thing, none of you have seen ETS’s evidence of her alleged cheating. But you credit their claim immediately, right? Typical. The letter they sent her is a stock letter that most students of her background do not wherewithal to challenge.

This is true. Big jumps in scores get the letter. It has nothing to do with race.

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Anonymous wrote:What she's doing is taking way more of her time and energy than retaking the test.

Anyone who raised their score that much fair and square would be jumping to retake the test and prove to everyone that they earned it.

What she is doing would end this ridiculousness for everyone forever and is therefore very useful.

+1000. ETS accused her or cheating. Let them prove it. And if it turns out there is no conclusive evidence of her cheating, I hope this turns into a class action because I am sure there are others like her flagged purely due to racial stereotypes.