Why is he any less worthy than, say, some overly prepped ‘n privileged nova drone?

Because universities are academic institutions, not celebrity clubs.

Did he create that movement alone?

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Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

An extraordinary applicant? Really? On the basis of what? Because he was able to get on TV and expose a view that many share especially in light of the terrible circumstances? No one of this board really knows this student’s intelligence and capabilities that would make home an “extraordinary applicant”. We’ve only read about the students scores and grades. Doubtful any one really knows one way or the other. This all about the studebt’s views and how they fit into a more liberal setting and the good PR Harvard gets from this.

YES! I keep telling you this. He started a movement (with others), it got national and global attention, and he got famous. He had experiences nearly no other student has had and is poised to take that media experience into future leadership. It is what makes him extraordinary and desirable to Harvard.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Lots of jealous parents here, it seems. I mean, it’s not like he’s going to an even better school—UVA—right, dcum?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but I’m not a fan of him taking a spot from a kid who deserves it.

Harvard isn't interested in your definition of who deserves to go there. It's weird that people are so critical of their admission policies, yet still want their kid to go to school there. Your fellow students ARE the experience of attending g a university, so if you hate the admission policies, you should probably dislike the school enough not to want to attend.

Not pp here -- what makes you think I want my kid to attend Harvard? It has become a parody of itself.

As someone who has read Mr. Hogg's tweets and seen his interviews, it is clear that Harvard values ideological purity and zeal over critical thinking and communication skills.

But you missed the other even more important quality - he has courage. Courage to speak up, courage to stand up and demand change. What is your kid doing with his critical thinking and communication skills?

Courage? What about his actions required courage? He wasn't in the building where the shooting happened. He was lauded by the press as a hero and (not surprisingly) his activism overcame his mediocre academic record to gain him admission to Harvard. To the contrary, it would take courage to admit to being a conservative when you are applying to college (and not just Trump supporters, fiscal conservatives need not apply, either).

You’re not very well read, are you? David Hogg and his family received many threats from people unhappy with his activism for gun control. It takes a lot of courage to speak out when you’re the subject of threats of violence and countless incidents of nastiness from online trolls. He’s a great catch for Harvard-with courage, leadership abilities, and brains. Those harping on his SAT scores are just jealous. The nature of holistic admissions is that they look at the whole package.

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Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

An extraordinary applicant? Really? On the basis of what? Because he was able to get on TV and expose a view that many share especially in light of the terrible circumstances? No one of this board really knows this student’s intelligence and capabilities that would make home an “extraordinary applicant”. We’ve only read about the students scores and grades. Doubtful any one really knows one way or the other. This all about the studebt’s views and how they fit into a more liberal setting and the good PR Harvard gets from this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but I’m not a fan of him taking a spot from a kid who deserves it.

Harvard isn't interested in your definition of who deserves to go there. It's weird that people are so critical of their admission policies, yet still want their kid to go to school there. Your fellow students ARE the experience of attending g a university, so if you hate the admission policies, you should probably dislike the school enough not to want to attend.

Not pp here -- what makes you think I want my kid to attend Harvard? It has become a parody of itself.

As someone who has read Mr. Hogg's tweets and seen his interviews, it is clear that Harvard values ideological purity and zeal over critical thinking and communication skills.

But you missed the other even more important quality - he has courage. Courage to speak up, courage to stand up and demand change. What is your kid doing with his critical thinking and communication skills?

Courage? What about his actions required courage? He wasn't in the building where the shooting happened. He was lauded by the press as a hero and (not surprisingly) his activism overcame his mediocre academic record to gain him admission to Harvard. To the contrary, it would take courage to admit to being a conservative when you are applying to college (and not just Trump supporters, fiscal conservatives need not apply, either).

For those saying he's destined for greatness, you recall Sandra Fluke? The Georgetown Law student who pushed for contraceptives. She was smarter, far more famous ... seven years later she's just a lawyer / failed wannabe politician.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Fluke

Harvard is lucky to have him-he inspired a new movement towards gun control and the first new gun control laws in Florida in decades. All the people hating on him should be ashamed. Save your ire for Jared Kushner, whose parents bought him a Harvard seat in exchange for a 1.3 million dollar donation.

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Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

Anonymous wrote:I haven't really followed David Hogg and am not equipped to evaluate the quality of his contribution to the student movement against gun violence. If his contribution was substantive, then I agree this would suggest he certainly has something special that should inspire an elite academic institution to take a closer look. But the low (in the realm of high-achieving students) SAT score does give me pause, and I'd be a bit disappointed if this is another example of an elite university prioritizing celebrity over scholarship.

This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

Horrors. An average person. Might as well kill yourself now.

The people on this site are so driven and status-conscious, it is truly sad.

Anonymous wrote:Notice the original poster said he "admitted" his SAT score.

Like admitting something that was shameful.

This site is so skewed, and NOT in a good way.

Any person who could move this country towards any half-way sane gun policy is worthy of the Nobel Prize in my book.

The context of his admission is that HE was super disappointed with what HE deemed a low score. He was also disappointed in his marks in 9th and 10th grade. Then in 11th and 12th he aced weighted honors and AP courses, which pumped up his weighted GPA. He is like most kids who delude themselves into believing they must be brilliant because they barely study and get easy weighted A’s at inflated high schools across America. Then they take the ACT or SAT and are exposed for being average.